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61437634 over 7 years ago

You make a good point, and initially I didn't have one until reading the boundary=historic wiki page. I added the historic counties as they're not really 'historic' but current in a non-administrative sense. Similarly they had administrative function but only historically, so I'm not sure which to go with. Others have already written to me claiming the historic counties have no place on the map (which I strongly disagree with), so I suspect there'll be a full discussion of all this at some point!

61410203 over 7 years ago

In this case they are not 'historic' but current. (Now with governmental backing also: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/by-george-englands-traditional-counties-can-return-to-englands-roads ) They represent the immutable divisions of England from Saxon times until the boundary acts of the 1880s, and so the 'date' of those I'm adding is "all dates prior to the administrative adjustments that began around then". I've thus been using early-edition OS maps.

I agree historic mapping is indeed out of scope, but England's "historic counties" don't fall into that. To quote a (21st-century) map that I own, "our geographic counties have never been affected, nor their boundaries changed by the endless shifting of local government boundaries over the past 125 years, but have remained constant and are today as they have been for centuries."

61410203 over 7 years ago

Hi,
I've been adding them from new as none exist at present. The result of my work thus far is
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ARB
Given it's a manual job, I have to frequently go back and "correct" sections I missed or the like, but although I frequently add the relation to existing boundary ways, I of course never edit the nodes of the way itself.

53663753 about 8 years ago

Thanks for that. Is there an easy way of selecting and changing all of them at once? The "select all" only selects those that are loaded in your current view.

52470841 about 8 years ago

The Ordnance Survey only lists the name Chare Bank in Ebchester itself - well before it reaches the bridge. It then lists B6309 after that. In addition it gives the name as Fine Lane when it turns north temporarily. On the straight part from there to Whittonstall it calls it Dere Street and B6309. Also, official addresses in Whittonstall only give the address as "The Cottage, Whittonstall", with no street given, so that's no help.

Anyway, I think the current values are as accurate as we can be, but please to edit if you find better sources.

52470841 about 8 years ago

I've had a look at other sources and relabelled the route from Whittonstall to Ebchester. Dere Street is the name of the Roman Road so only applies to the parts that intersect with the road. Chare Bank is the official name in Ebchester, but I can't see if it extends beyond the bridge.

48951250 about 8 years ago

An entirely valid point and I wasn't aware that I'd added the name (though I clearly did!) as I entirely agree with you. The name is on the Roman road relation now, so I've removed them. Thanks for spotting.

45166733 almost 9 years ago

It was from https://www.achurchnearyou.com/swainsthorpe-st-peter/
but I agree it's a long way off (it seems to be the p/c for Great Melton church). I'll remove it. Thanks for spotting.

43734493 about 9 years ago

Nice spot. Looks like my copy/paste hadn't cleared from the previous one I did. Corrected now.

41641665 over 9 years ago

Over-exuberant copying of OS_OpenStreetView, thanks for spotting. A quick web search shows it did close in 2012. Now reverted.

41642619 over 9 years ago

you're right -- I have gotten over-excited there. I've reverted it, thanks.

37087855 almost 10 years ago

Thanks -- I was there at the weekend and was hugely impressed by the variety of shops. It certainly deserved immortalising on OSM!