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51350214 over 8 years ago

P.S. A few days ago I started a list of all Wikidata IDs that should always be used as brand:wikidata. Should we have this as a github repo for some script? osm.wiki/Wikidata%2BOSM_SPARQL_query_service#Current_Challenges

51350214 over 8 years ago

@SwiftFast, thanks for the thorough message! I will be happy to fix those objects, and I agree that it should have been brand, not operator, as was suggested to me via another channel. Also, thanks for the great forum discussion. I hope we can move forward on some proposals to standardize wd/wp tag usage.

I have been actively adding "wikidata" tags to those entries that already have "wikipedia" tags, which allowed community to perform a lot of cleanups, like fixing incorrect or stale wikipedia tags. I also built a service similar to Overpass that contains combined data from both the OSM and Wikidata databases. This allowed very sophisticated data quality control. Those QA queries are now in the "examples" page, accessible either from wiki or directly from the tool's "examples" button. Moreover, I am very hopeful that your bots can use this service directly, and help with cleaning up and maintain objects everywhere.

Once I tagged substantial number of wikipedia-only objects with wikidata, I started analyzing them all to find places of business that were clearly in large numbers - in other words, those whose wikidata represented a chain rather than a specific place. I believe that I have made a mistake with that edit - they should have been tagged as brands, not operators. My understanding was initially based on how many operator:wp/wd tags there are. I already started reversing this after some conversations, but perhaps a wider discussion should take place before the global cleanup.

I hope we can standardize on wp/wd tags being a 1:1 representation of the object, not its brand/operator/artist/subject/... This will allow a more precise info.

* QA queries osm.wiki/SPARQL_examples
* osm.wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata
* related, with good discussion on talk page: osm.wiki/Proposed_features/Wikipedia_tag_types
* New page (WIP) - osm.wiki/Wikidata_Classification_Guide

51919550 over 8 years ago

P.S. btw, "ele" was a short departure from my main activity at the moment - fixing all the Wikipedia & Wikidata tags. I am using a mechanical approach with that (I posted and written about it a while ago), after which I use the SPARQL service to find any incorrectly labeled objects. This allows substantial improvement to the quality of OSM data. Please take a look at all the quality control queries available in the examples at http://88.99.164.208/wikidata/ (or see the link above)

51919550 over 8 years ago

Hi Michael, my apologies if it appeared mechanical - I have reviewed every replacement value. I was simply converting "124m" -> "124" per wiki description of the "ele" field and JOSM's autofix suggestion.
I also reviewed the number of ele tags as pure numbers vs those with "m" symbol - looked like a small percentage. I will be happy to create a page on the wiki - what content should it have? Thanks for your vigilance! :)

51761501 over 8 years ago

Hi @naoliv, I renamed it to subject:wikipedia because the wikipedia article is not about this specific OSM object, but instead describes a concept - e.g. an article about McDonalds, should not be used on a specific McDonalds, but instead be set as the subject per wikipedia=* . Same applies to a statue - it shouldn't link to WP about the person who is portrayed in the statue. Keeping wikipedia & wikidata tags in sync is a good indicator of this approach.

51760426 over 8 years ago

hi, thanks for contributing, but the wikipedia link is broken. Please find a wikipedia article and link to it. Thanks!

50285810 over 8 years ago

Hi, you imported wikipedia tags incorrectly. Please fix - they should not have url encoding. Instead, they should appear exactly as shown in Wikipedia with the language: prefix.

49950219 over 8 years ago

Hi, it seems like the data for node/4943267293 is a duplicate and incomplete. Similar one is node/4724280996
I'm deleting it.

38615157 over 8 years ago

The wikipedia article is about a place in Antarctica. I will remove the WP/WD entry, as it seems to be misplaced. Let me know if it should be adjusted. Thx!

51351678 over 8 years ago

Доброго времени. Я переименовал wikipedia & wikidata -> operator:wikipedia & operator:wikidata, согласно описанию в вики. По описанию, wikipedia/wikidata лучше подходят для ссылок по поводу конкретного объекта - музей ссылается на статью про этот музей. Получается 1:1. А в случае когда статья про группу тип объекта, например McDonalds, надо использовать operator:* таги.

47560483 over 8 years ago

Hi, I found a number of duplicate items (mostly stores). I have been deleting them, but you might want to check your script - seems like it creates dups. Also, I am moving wikidata -> operator:wikidata (per wiki). It makes tags much easier to process later. Thanks!

49072352 over 8 years ago

Are you sure the point is correct? Wikipedia point is 150km away from osm's.

45604455 over 8 years ago

I'm assuming the McDonald's operator should be McDonalds, no?

49072352 over 8 years ago

The wikipedia link was pointing to ru:Хребет Черского -- a disambiguation page. I removed it. Are you sure the location is correct? Please fix. Thanks!

48386392 over 8 years ago

@paul, I simply added wikidata tag for the corresponding wikipedia tag. Are there any problems with the data? https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=48386392

48401458 over 8 years ago

Hi, i have been trying to open that history link, but it keeps giving me timeout errors. Looking at the way object itself, the wikidata item seems to be set correctly, and that's the only thing I was doing.

48401458 over 8 years ago

@samely, hi, specifically which object are you referring to?

47555552 over 8 years ago

thanks, silly mistake, i looked at them but my mind didn't register the weirdness. Thanks for catching it!

47323455 over 8 years ago

hi, thanks for adding wikipedia tags! Please use the Wikipedia plugin to also fetch the corresponding Wikidata tags - makes it very useful for many quality and usecases. Thanks!

47366159 over 8 years ago

Spasibo za wikipedia links. Please use Wikipedia plugin to fetch corresponding wikidata tags too - very useful in many ways.