Works in Chromium, but not Firefox…

Doesn’t work on https://mapwith.ai/rapid either.

I most certainly do not want people to obtain any licenses from Oracle ;-) Please don’t just say “you’re wrong” without giving any justification.

From the license (https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/license/javase-license.html)

“Personal Use” refers to an Individual’s use of the Programs solely on a desktop or laptop computer under such Individual’s control only to run Personal Applications.

“Personal Applications” refers to Applications designed for individual personal use only, such as games or personal productivity tools.

Step by step:

• “Individual’s” - yes, most JOSM users are individuals
• “use of the Programs solely on a desktop or laptop computer” - yes, it’s not run on e.g. servers
• “under such Individual’s control” - yes, assuming they use it on their own computers.
• “only to run Personal Applications” - Is JOSM a “Personal Application”? If not, “Personal Use” does not apply.
• “Applications” - JOSM is an application.
• “individual personal use only” - See above: OSM is a huge collabortive project which involves money and businesses. JOSM is used to contribute data to this project. Others will directly benefit from it.
• “such as games” - JOSM is not a game (although it can be fun)
• “or personal productivity tools” - examples from the FAQ include doing ones own taxes or ones own homework. Any GTD tools, household organization, etc. would match too. But JOSM certainly is no “personal productivity tools”.

“such as games or personal productivity tools” means there can be other categories. But JOSM is very very different from the examples given.

Hi, as I tried to point out in the German forums, I believe that usage of Oracle Java for running JOSM is not covered by personal use, hence you’d need to obtain a license from Oracle or switch to OpenJDK now.

Quoting the FAQ:

Can you elaborate on what qualifies as Personal use? Personal use is using Java on a desktop or laptop computer to do things such as to play games or run other personal applications. If you are using Java on a desktop or laptop computer as part of any business operations, that is not personal use. For example, you could use a Java productivity application to do your own homework or your personal taxes, but you could not use it to do your business accounting.

Most users of JOSM are not trying to generate a profit for themselves, but the OSM project spends a substantial amount of real money on e.g. server costs. And there are organizations involved with OSM that utilize the work of JOSM users to generate a profit. OSM, being a collaborative project to create a world map, is certainly not a personal project and therefore JOSM is not a personal application. And obviously it’s not a game either.

Cheers

Wulf4096