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128137561 about 3 years ago

Hi again,

Since you didn't reply and it's been a couple weeks, I have reverted/removed these 0 level values.

127054883 about 3 years ago

Thanks for clarifying.

Yes, it looks like Valmiera has introduced a bunch of living zones https://www.valmierasnovads.lv/content/uploads/2021/07/satiksmes_komisija_dzivojama_zona21_kopejais.pdf

For reference, in Latvia, living streets `highway=living_street` are those in living zone - "Dzīvojamā zona" osm.wiki/Lv:Latvian_tagging_guidelines#Mazāki_ceļi , which is always marked with the blue children playing 533 traffic sign https://likumi.lv/wwwraksti/2015/121/BILDES/N_279/IMAGE196.JPG . So all streets within the zone should be tagged living streets and no streets outside such a zone should be tagged living streets.

Looking at the map, there are still a bunch of location where residential roads mix with living streets. There is no Mapillary footage and I haven't been there, so I cannot change anything. I also wouldn't want to use the official zone map because it could be incorrect.

Anyway, as long as you are aware of what the roads should be, that's fine and feel free to change them as needed.

128092423 about 3 years ago

Thanks for getting back! And thanks for changing the features.

Yeah, not everything has a tag. And the default openstreetmap.org editor iD does not have all of them. Sometimes things need custom values or even new values.

I think `barrier=retaining_wall` matches the primary purpose here. These do look like how retaining walls usually look. There is a lower area and a higher area and the wall is there to stop the soil (or any structures on it) from collapsing. So it's probably just a thick and decorative (retaining) wall here.

If these have additional features, then those can be mapped as additions, for example Soviet-style reliefs artwork_type=relief . iD will not have such very specific things. Places like this usually are harder to map and you have to search the wiki and other similar examples (assuming they are correct). If all else fails, you can always use a generic `man_made` tag man_made=* or leave an OSM note (osm.wiki/Notes) of `fixme` tag (fixme=*) for someone else to correct.

But yeah - I think these should not be buildings. In general, you should be able to enter a building. Of course, the world has 1000 exceptions, but in general if you saw a building on the map, you would expect to see a human-sized structure with some sort of inside area. There are some exceptions like `building=ruins` building=ruins which is why I asked you about this area - I haven't been here, so it could have been all sorts of things.

Also, I should mention that we should never use Google or other unfree maps to verify anything. See
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#Can_I_copy_from_google_or_other_similar_sources? Mapillary is of course okay and made for using for this.

P. S. Your locale is set to `en-US` so I used English, but I can reply in Latvian/Russian.

128762874 about 3 years ago

Es pielaboju ar changeset/128779524. Te vecais P28 palika pa way/672636141/history līdz way/199260488/history

128543684 about 3 years ago

Yes, this is not highway=pedestrian` by itself, it's `highway=pedestrian`; `area=yes` (highway=pedestrian#Squares_and_plazas)

`area:highway`=* is the physical shape of a (single) way.

`highway=pedestrian`; `area=yes` is an area where pedestrians can freely move.

So, yes, this is a meeting point of multiple `area:highway=footway`, but this location is more specifically `highway=pedestrian`; `area=yes`.

On wiki, it's marked "?" for areas because whether it is accepted use depends on the value - for `pedestrian` it is a valid combination, but, for example, for `trunk` it would not be.

I agree it isn't great that it's routable (https://imgur.com/cn9lQii), but that's a software problem with routers and it's not even technically wrong - pedestrians can move anywhere within this area.

Anyway, I don't mind if you think this is wider highway way area and not a pedestrian area, but it should probably not be removed altogether.

128534257 about 3 years ago

Hello again,

As I mentioned before changeset/128474705, Bing is not aligned in Latvia. You are moving features to incorrect locations.

128543684 about 3 years ago

Hi!

What was wrong with way/984478396/history pedestrian area?

128474705 about 3 years ago

Hi!

Just wanted to let you know that Bing imagery is not aligned in Latvia. Please be careful aligning to it. I've fixed/realigned some of the buildings here.

Unfortunately, iD does not detect the local imagery layer near the edges of the country, which is normally listed as "Orthophoto (2016–2018), 1:5000, Latvia" in iD and is aligned correctly. If you move the view in iD inland, it should detect it, you can then switch to it, and then move back to this location with it enabled.

128498429 about 3 years ago

You have connected the grass area to road/paths again with way/1110378439 . As mentioned before (changeset/128455280), please avoid doing this.

128453848 about 3 years ago

Is there a new a bridge here?

128455280 about 3 years ago

Hi!

Please try not to connect areas to roads like way/1104667630 - the road line represents the middle of the road and but grass does not go the middle of the road.

You shouldn't add mud areas unless they are permanent (like a swamp). way/1110109943 does not seem like that. See
natural=mud

Also, you have not replied or fixed the issues with the former railway at changeset/127631652

128432681 about 3 years ago

These roads are probably not residential, but driveways.
service=driveway

Roads that only lead to one isolated dwelling or a farmyard are not part of the public road network and only access one property, so they are classified driveways. Residential roads usually have multiple residences/properties along them.

128432602 about 3 years ago

Hi!

Are you sure all of these buildings are houses? A "house" means a place where people live. building=house

For example, this way/1109970762/history is not likely to be a house because it's tiny and probably a shed. While this way/540701137/history is probably a barn or warehouse and probably not where people live.

128412173 about 3 years ago

Hi!

If roads like way/1109771761/history lead to isolated dwellings or farmyards, then they should most likely be tagged as driveways rather than tracks.

See highway=track example when a track is not the right classification: "A minor road providing primary access to one or several permanent residences (driveway)"

128337963 about 3 years ago

No worries!

For information, you cannot edit finished changesets themselves, but you can simply edit again. It will make a new changeset and that's perfectly fine.

128337963 about 3 years ago

Hi!

When this road goes through the building, is it a tunnel=building_passage ?

127982997 about 3 years ago

Since you are not replying but still actively editing, I have reverted this changeset.

128137561 about 3 years ago

Hi!

You set the building levels and roof levels to 0 in this edit. What kind of building is here? These values don't seem correct.

128141197 about 3 years ago

Hi, why did you delete way/177033064/history ?

128092423 about 3 years ago

You tagged more of these as buildings (changesets 128132917 and 128132992). Can you please clarify what you are trying to do? These are clearly not buildings.