Hi MapMeister,

Where has this name come from? I can't find any referenc to "Melly D Walk" in any official reference.

Hey Skipperoo!

Thanks for the reply.

Firstly, I 100% agree with you that the map should show both names. Unfortunately, one of the limitations of the default OSM renderer is that only the value in the "name=" field is rendered. Ideally, the 'name' and 'alt_name' field should be rendered.

The signage along this section is inconsistent, yes, but most of the signs I've seen look like this https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=272912654578868

where both names are shown. This is the same as how other dual names roads are signposted.

Lastly, with regards to addressing; the source I am using for addressing is the Vicmap data, which is the official, "authoritative" source for addresses. These stores might choose to use an address other than the official property address (c.f., shops that advertise their address as "the corner of x and y"), but the underlying property is still assigned Dandenong Road.

Happy to explain further if you like.

Hi,

As per the other comments, this is not correct. Properties are addressed as Dandenong Road, and the signs have both names.

Reverting as per osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Dual_Road_Naming.
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Hello Skipperoo.

As per the Australian Tagging guidelines, thje local name should be used in these dual naming situations.

osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Dual_Road_Naming

Further, your contention that "all street signs show the Princes Highway name" is incorrect. There are many street signs which use the Lonsdale Street name. I have reverted your changes.
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Hi Skipperoo.

The Whitehorse Road name is used for street addressing and is equally the name of the road. As per the Australian Tagging Gui8delines, in this case , the local name should be used.

osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Dual_Road_Naming

I have reverted your change.
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Hi Skipperoo.

This section of Princes Highway is actually known as Old Princes Highway. (https://mapshare.vic.gov.au/mapsharevic/)

I have reverted your change.

Hi Map Analyster,

I see you've changed three suburb labels into towns.

That is incorrect. These are still suburbs according to the definition in the wiki, and they should be mapped as such.

Dian
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This edit has moved the Noble Park node far from the center of the suburb (and the main activity area) to an inconspicuous street in a corner of the suburb. Reverted.

Derrick,

Your edits to move these nodes are not necessary and have the potential to cause confusion.

For example, you've moved the Huntingdale suburb node outside of the suburb itself.

Please refrain from moving around suburb nodes in this way.

Hello and thank you for contributing to OpenStreetMap! I noticed that you have added some buildings, but some of the outlines may not be completely accurate. Here are some tips to help you map buildings more precisely:

- Use high-resolution satellite imagery if available to ensure the outlines are as accurate as possible. Take note of any distinct features that could help define the building's shape, such as the presence of balconies, awnings, or rooftop equipment. Bing has the highest resolution, but Maxar has been updated more recently.

- To clean up your work after outlining, press Q to make sure all corners are at a clean angle.

- Different buildings should be mapped separately, even if they appear connected by a roof extension, like a car port.

Remember, accuracy is key when mapping buildings. Incorrectly mapped buildings can lead to problems for those who rely on OpenStreetMap data, such as emergency services, delivery drivers, and tourists. Please take the time to double-check your work and make any necessary adjustments to ensure the buildings are accurately mapped.

Thank you for your contributions, and keep mapping!

Hey Razax,
Thanks for your contributions to the area.

The "living street" tag is generally reserved for streets in which pedestrians have right of way over cars.

I don't believe that's the case here, so I've changed the street back to residential.

Many thanks,

Dian.

Hi Boulton,

These estates and neighbourhoods are not suburbs, and shouldn't be mapped as such. They can be mapped as place=neighbourhood or on a landuse=residential as an estate name

Hello Moobies,

Where has the name Tatton Drive come from? I cannot see it in any official sources.
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Thanks MapAbility,

I can see what you've tried to here. I think it's fair to say collector=tertiary is a reasonable correlation, similarly freeway=motorway and highway=trunk.

I think much of the more "questionable" tagging is the arterial/sub-arterial elements. It's hard to understand the reasoning behind some of the distinction between a arterial and subarterial, but some seem intuitively wrong?

Hello,

The previous tagging appears to be correct. The electorate of Kew is a political boundary.

boundary=political

Dian

Hey MapAbility,

I'm a little concerned with some of these changes that you're making, as they generally seem to be inflating the status of many roads to secondary and primary.

The tagging guidelines has a list of what each road category is for: osm.wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads

In particular, primary is listed as "Other cross-city routes and arterial roads." Many of these roads were (in my opinion) correctly tagged as secondary: " Major roads within a local area, often connecting neighbouring suburbs."

It also is resulting in nearly no roads being tagged as tertiary: "Minor through roads and routes within a local area. Often act as feeders to residential streets and are managed by local councils."

There a many roads that are less important than the roads feeding it, but now have the same tagging: (Earl Street and Chandler Highway, Kew; Moira Street and Malvern Road, Ashburton; Huntingdale Road and Ferntree Gully Road, Mount Waverley; Old Dandenong Road and Boundary Road, Dingley Village; Osborne Avenue and Bando Road, Springvale; and so on.

I believe you're basing this off Vicroads/Vicmap Transport data? Those only have a Arterial/Major/Minor classification, which groups together roads that shouldn't be grouped together under the OSM tagging model.

Respectfully,
Dian

Hi GMH,

Thanks for your contributions to Melbourne, and welcome to OSM!

A couple of things regarding your contributions:

- Electorate boundaries should be mapped as boundary=political. The wiki has a good explanation why: boundary=political

- We try to avoid deleting elements and recreating them, but instead modify existing elements. This is to keep the history osm.wiki/Keep_the_history

I'd encourage you to keep mapping, and reach out if you have any questions.

Dian

Hi Jackc8,

Thanks for your contribution to the Blackburn area.

I've adjusted your change to the Station St/Williams Road/Whitehorse Road intersection to better reflect road geometry.

Happy to discuss in more detail if you like, but keep editing :)

No problem at all. For what it is worth, as a native Australian English speaker, I haven't heard "Dookie" used in the same way as it appears to be used in American English.

Hi BigMoey,

Thanks for your contribution to the local area in Epping.

I see you've added Alsiraat College to the map; I'm not sure if you noticed that the school was already on the map? way/1132416340

I've moved some of the additional details you've provided into the area.

Thanks again,
Dian.