Changeset: 80841040
this is not a circular junction as it has other roads inside, and it does not appear to be a circle and makes nagivation software misleading
Closed by 小智智
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Comment from Kovoschiz
Please check the definition and usage. The caveat is "no road network inside", not no road inside. This is considered as gyratories.
Shape has no bearing on whether it is a circular junction.
Would you explain what navigation software has what kind of problem?
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Comment from 小智智
When I'm driving through it using OsmAnd it tells me to use the 3rd exit at the circle, but I'm expecting to drive it straight on.
Also, the mere existence of the entry / exit of Tai Tam Reservoir Road inside the circle already disqualifies it.
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Comment from Kovoschiz
1. It would help if you clarify where are you driving from, but this is not wrong. Driving straight or curved has no bearing on whether a junction is "circular" or an exit being an exit. A lot of gyratories are famous for having "straight" paths as well. There are also perfect roundabouts there are raindrop = dogbone shapes, as well as slip lanes formed for straight movements on three-way roundabouts.
2. This does not "disqualify" it based on the definition of a gyratory. What do you based your qualification on? -
Comment from 小智智
I was driving from Wan Chai to Repulse Bay at that time.
The definition in the wiki does say it does not contain a road network in the circle. The existence of Tai Tam Reservoir Road with branches INSIDE the circle make the circle not meeting the definition already.
A circle which qualify will be the one near Kwun Tong Ferry Pier, or the one at Cherry Street / Hoi Wang Road. Upon arriving these junctions the road sign indicates a circle, there are no road inside the circle, and there isn't right of way in the circle.
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Comment from Kovoschiz
1. I should add
2. This is a terminal inside the junction, not a road network inside the road. Wiki used a ring road as an comparison. It is clear what it, and "gyratory" in real life means.
3. Is a road sign indicating a circle-ish junction crucial? -
Comment from Kovoschiz
* 1. I should add the circular roadway on hamburger junctions / throughabouts are also considered `junction=circular`.
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Comment from Kovoschiz
A 4-way, or T-junction (if it exists) throughabout would still have a `junction=circular`, because there's only a single junction inside. This does not constitute a network.
The situation here is that the road is grade-separated over the circular junction, therefore there's only one terminal for Tai Tam Reservoir Rd. Topologically, it would not matter whether the spur lies "inside" or "outside" this circular junction.
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