Changeset: 139189535
no path there
Closed by Zverik
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created_by | iD 2.26.2 |
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locale | ru |
Discussion
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Comment from dgmapping
What happened to this deleted path? Based on Strava heatmap it's still used by foot and by bike: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/117921834#map=18/59.45406/25.17751
I've also used this path several times, though couple of years ago.
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Comment from Zverik
Idk about strava, but there is a fence along the cycleway, so it isn't possible to turn from it along the channel. Also the path a little to the north (which I kept) is barely visible, so I doubt people use it.
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Comment from dgmapping
If I recall correctly there was a gap between fence and the barrier:
https://fotoladu.maaamet.ee/?basemap=hybriidk&zlevel=10,25.17544,59.46693&foto=5815919&overlay=avaleht&HDzlevel=14,84.98413,-179.66997&HD=img/a7r3/2022-04/30,2022-04-30-09-09-12_K1.jpg,7952,5304Correct link for Strava heatmap: https://www.strava.com/heatmap#18.34/25.17734/59.45443/gray/all
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Comment from Zverik
Nope, no gaps. I planned a bicycle route through that path and examined the barrier very thoroughly. Had to use the cycleway instead.
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Comment from Zverik
Like this but there were no gaps, and no traces of a path along the fence: https://www.google.com/maps/@59.45454,25.1782723,3a,24.3y,234.1h,82.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scAEJ4jf_yEB--9QoVh5yVQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DcAEJ4jf_yEB--9QoVh5yVQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.133137%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
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Comment from dgmapping
Streetviews from Sep 2022 and Jun 2019 clearly show - there is a gap between two barriers, between bridge and ramp. Although it is quite narrow, it is possible to cycle through the gap, without dismounting. If there's been any recent changes to this area and now you really need to climb over the barrier, then it makes sense to delete the path.
Personally, I would be very cautious to delete any paths that show clear activity in Strava heatmap.
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Comment from Zverik
What I don't like in this discussion is that it's essentially a "but I see it on the imagery" vs a person who's been there two days ago. Now I'm getting a feeling I need to go back and study the area closer, because last year's data (and Strava traces of people who's been there who knows when) suggests otherwise.
I have been there, did not see a path. Period. If that's not convincing, feel free to restore the path.
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Comment from dgmapping
Basically there are 3 distinct things to consider:
Is the path clearly visible and usable?
Even if it's not, keep in mind that during the summer months grass can grow very quickly making it temporarily unusable. I've personally been there on autumn/winter/spring and it has been ridable with a bike.Is the path a dead-end and completely blocked by the barrier next to the cycle path?
If it really is, then I would seriously consider deleting it.Is it actually used?
The easiest way is to check Strava heatmap. It shouldn't display activities that are older than 12 months and it's updated monthly. On winter months you can also survey footprints on snow :D -
Comment from dgmapping
Restored the path after a survey.
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Comment from Zverik
Huh. Okay, sorry for having you go there :)
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