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תיקון הצומת באלעד444
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Comment from Yitzchak M
Hi Tsur.
Once again, we have a dilemma. 8 days ago, I was hiking on the Israel Trail at the Elad junction and saw new markers showing a new route and fixed the IHM map for this. Two days later, you changed it back to the way it was. In those two days, had they changed the markers back? I think not! There is construction there. -
Comment from VELOCITY_club
Hi,
Sorry about the late response.
After you pointed the Y2Y bike trail should rather be with the Israel trail, I looked at that area again:
* In Strava Heat Map to see where people ride and walk.
* In the GIS of the SPNI in
https://www.teva.org.il/israel-national-trail
or
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/cb82523a09db431f9ed47f5645581be5/So I documented the sidewalk and the paths there that did not even exist before. Only then I could have the 2 relations be exactly as the two GIS suggested.
Since we are talking about exact meter distances. It doesn't really matter. If you think the Israel trail should move, go ahead and change it as required.
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Comment from Yitzchak M
Thank you. I was there hiking from Yaar Kola to Mazur (and back) and noticed as clear as day the trail change. I always wonder if it is a good idea to film changes for future reference if asked about it. What do you think?
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Comment from VELOCITY_club
Its not a court case. I don't think you need for proove anything. If you saw it and it's fine.
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Comment from Yitzchak M
Thanks! :-)
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Comment from VELOCITY_club
Have a look at the new Popularity Heatmap in IHM in that junction. Seems not used where you marked...
In Strava cycling Heatmap as well:
https://www.strava.com/heatmap#17.91/34.94273/32.05276/hot/rideDo you mind if I change just the bike trail Y2Y according the heatmap?
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Comment from Yitzchak M
1) It seems that the new Israel Trail markers are relatively fresh.
2) I am not familiar with heatmaps. Do they record only bicycles or also hikers?
3) Absolutely, I do not mind. I am not a bicyclist, so those routes are not really my domain. The "on the ground" accuracy of the Israel Trail (no matter what the heatmaps say) is. -
Comment from VELOCITY_club
3) So I reverted now just the Y2Y mtb route.
2) IHM's new heatmaps records every recoding uploaded to OSM without difference if its bike/hike/fly... Also at this point its since the beginning of GPS recording time. So its limited.
Strava's heatmap is the best tool used to see activity. Use the link I sent before and filter Activity Type. Its only the last 2 years.
1) If changes on the ground are new, neither of these tools can reflect them. -
Comment from Yitzchak M
Thank you so much for your cooperation and your explanations. I hope to meet you one day soon.
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