Changeset: 133794995
German names for gminas in Poland added
Closed by PJ120
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created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18360 Debian de) |
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source | Wikipedia;http://gov.genealogy.net |
Discussion
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Comment from maro21
Where do these names come from? For example https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2613078 is neither on Wikipedia https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/pl:Borne%20Sulinowo%20(gmina) nor on http://gov.genealogy.net/search/name
Are these nowadays used German names or old German names? If these are names for municipalities used before 1945, they should be in [old_name:de].
I suppose they should be in [old_name:de] because only a few towns in Opolskie voivodships have German names.If you add a name in another language, you should copy the value of the [name] tag to [name:pl].
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Comment from PJ120
About where the names are from:
There are no official German names for gminas in Poland, however their Polish names just consist of the word "gmina" followed by the name of their administrative city. What i did is combine these city names that are already present on the city's respective node ("admin_centre" of the gmina relation) together with "Gemeinde" (German word for "Gmina").
In addition to that, i checked most of the names with http://gov.genealogy.net that visualizes various historical sources regarding city names. In case of https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2613078 i used the "name:de" tag from https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/31580922, which is "Groß Born". It also matches with this entry on genealogy.net: http://gov.genealogy.net/item/show/BOROR2JO83GN
("Bahnhof" is just the German word for railway station, followed up by the city name "Groß Born")This name is also present on the German Wikipedia page of Borne Sulinowo, which is probably the reason it was added to OSM.
The issue of the usage of "name:de" and "old_name:de" has been discussed multiple times by the German community with most people agreeing to keep using "name:de" for names that were not part of a political renaming campaign (like changed names introduced during WW2). These should instead be tagged with old_name:de:-1945 or similar. I also checked most of the names for that, but i did not find any.
Here are some examples of representative opinions on the topic:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069416.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069422.htmlThanks for letting me know about adding the native name in addition to any multilingual name, i will do that in case of any further editing like this.
- Comment from PJ120
Relations (461-480 of 480)
- Wojcieszów (3047120), v26
- Złotoryja (3047121), v20
- gmina Pielgrzymka (3047122), v23
- gmina Zagrodno (3047123), v22
- gmina Złotoryja (3047124), v29
- gmina Świerzawa (3047125), v31
- gmina Mirsk (3047897), v27
- gmina Gryfów Śląski (3047898), v26
- gmina Lubomierz (3047899), v24
- gmina Lwówek Śląski (3047900), v37
- gmina Wleń (3047901), v20
- gmina Mietków (3048176), v20
- gmina Kąty Wrocławskie (3048177), v26
- gmina Sobótka (3048178), v21
- gmina Czernica (3049632), v20
- gmina Długołęka (3049633), v39
- gmina Jordanów Śląski (3049634), v19
- gmina Kobierzyce (3049635), v24
- gmina Siechnice (3049636), v32
- gmina Żórawina (3049637), v17
Nodes (1-20 of 161)
- Świeszyno (31345525), v13
- Siemyśl (31345847), v13
- Rąbino (31345979), v16
- Manowo (31346490), v15
- Koczała (31346947), v12
- Grzmiąca (31347216), v15
- Dygowo (31347371), v15
- Biesiekierz (31347627), v14
- Będzino (31347690), v13
- Parchowo (31531094), v15
- Lipusz (31531606), v17
- Dziemiany (31532264), v17
- Lipnica (31568397), v13
- Konarzyny (31568405), v15
- Zakrzewo (31578722), v14
- Warnice (31579591), v18
- Stara Dąbrowa (31581823), v16
- Sośno (31582059), v13
- Sadki (31583006), v14
- Przelewice (31583821), v14
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