Changeset: 124988080
Coniston paths after Wetherlam-Hodge Close walk b
Closed by John Stanworth
Tags
created_by | Go Map!! 3.1.4 |
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imagery_used | Bing Aerial |
locale | en-GB |
source | Survey and Bing |
Discussion
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Comment from gurglypipe
Hi, what’s the reasoning for deleting all these paths? The ones near Lingstone Beck, for example, are quite visible on satellite imagery.
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Comment from John Stanworth
Hi Gurglypipe. Good to hear from you. I’ve had two big walks out of Coniston this week and I’m hoping to have a couple more. My creating, moving and deleting paths was based on them. As you may know there are many paths on the map that don’t exist on the ground, particularly in the Lake District and North Wales, making OSM and therefore Strava etc an unreliable resource in these areas. There are two main causes : some were paths and were correctly mapped but are no longer used and have ‘healed over’, others are marks from old structures like turbary roads which don’t exist any more but are drawn in as paths by armchair mappers. The ones near Lingstone Beck come into this second category. Deleting these paths is perhaps more important than drawing in missing paths but I would suggest that you only delete paths if there is no path visible on the ground AND no trace on the Strava heatmap. Cheers. John
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Comment from gurglypipe
Thanks for the detailed reply. It’s good to know you’ve been surveying this area in person!
My worry is that armchair mappers will add the removed paths back in at some point in the future.
Perhaps it would mitigate this risk to retag the paths from highway=path to razed:highway=path, rather than deleting them, if they correspond to something visible on satellite imagery. The use of the lifecycle prefix[1] should hopefully stop armchair mappers from re-adding them.
It might also help to explicitly mention the deletions, and brief reasoning for them, in the changeset description so that other mappers can refer to it in future.
What do you think?
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Comment from John Stanworth
Lifecycle prefix on the turbary roads etc instead of deleting is a great idea! And yes my changeset comments tend to be very inadequate :( My only excuse is that I do all my mapping on my phone and often as I’m walking so lengthy typing is difficult. But again you are right - if I’m deleting paths it is bound to cause alarm so I need to give some explanation.
Thanks for the input. Good to hear from you. John. -
Comment from gurglypipe
Great! Hope you enjoy the rest of your time in the area, and good work on the surveying! :)
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