Changeset: 115258018
Following discussion of the correct language to use at https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=850037#p850037 , I've set this back to the previous value
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Comment from SomeoneElse
To anyone else who thinks that the language used in the "name" tag here is not the best one to use, please discuss at the forum link noted in the changeset comment before any changes.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
לכל מי שחושב שהשפה שבה נעשה שימוש בתג "שם" כאן אינה הטובה ביותר לשימוש, נא לדון בקישור הפורום שצוין בתגובת השינויים לפני כל שינוי.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
لأي شخص آخر يعتقد أن اللغة المستخدمة في علامة "الاسم" هنا ليست هي الأفضل للاستخدام ، يرجى المناقشة في رابط المنتدى المشار إليه في تعليق مجموعة التغييرات قبل أي تغييرات.
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Comment from user_11418917
Dear Andy, I totally disagree with putting the 'name' tag in Arabic instead of Hebrew which is the language that's used in this area.
The suggestion to change the name tag to Arabic was requested by not a local mapper, it was suggested by an Iranian mapper, which I don't want to get political but we all know the background of this.
This same user used bad language and called me "racist and dismissive" in clear text which goes totally against the OSM guidelines! he had previously mass vandalize other countries around the map and did not get a single warning? instead you blocked me for calling him out https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/5403
You unfortunately decided to make this change based on a non local person and ignored a local mapper who suggested the name to be put in Hebrew. The names on the map should be according on the locals, which in the forum post a local mapper clearly said to not put it in Arabic.
Therefore, we should change the 'name' tag back to Hebrew based on what the local had said previously to you. And the only consideration of changing the name tag should be risen by locals only.
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Comment from user_11418917
Hello,
Plus what I have mentioned above here are a few other reasons why the name should be changed back to Hebrew instead of Arabic.
A simple examination of the neighborhood you can see that's the only Arabic name in the Christian quarter is the new name of the neighborhood, everything else is almost all in Hebrew, Latin, Aramaic\Syriac, And Greek, each represents the ethnicity and religion of people who live there.
Everyone should know that there is a difference between "Arab speakers" and "Arabs". The local people of the Christian quarter are not Arabs, they can speak Arabic but that doesn't make Arabic their mother language.
The Arabic name of the Christian quarter is "حي النصارى" which sounds "Hay Al-Nasara" Hay=neighborhood, Al=The, Nasara=A word that's used by Muslims to call the Christian, Christians do not call themselves "Nasara" they call themselves Christians.
For example here is an article from the Chaldean Patriarchate of Babylon to the Arab readers explain why it's Christians (مسيحيون) not Nasara (نصارى). https://saint-adday.com/?p=37321
Even if you google "حي النصارى", Google will correct it to you and say "Christian Quarter (الحي المسيحي)". See: https://www.google.com/search?q=حي+النصارى
Andy, if you really want the name to be in Arabic, at least put the name as if the locals would say it in Arabic, and that would be "الحي المسيحي".
Best Regards.
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=71448
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