Changeset: 113178713
Created relation for Greater London section of NCN4
Closed by MacLondon
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18118 en_GB) |
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Discussion
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Comment from DaveF
Hi
Why have you created this relation?
It was perfectly fine as part of 1318929
To find routes within Greater London is achievable as OSM is geospatially aware.
Unnecessarily splitting relation adds confusion leading to errors in the OSM database. -
Comment from MacLondon
Within London, Route 4 of the National Cycle Network is also Route 4 of the London Cycle Network. A separate subrelation was needed to represent the section that is part of the LCN, and this includes a segment in Putney that has been dropped from the NCN.
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Comment from DaveF
Could you provide details of this 'Route 4 for London Cycle Networks' or indeed details of 'London Cycle Networks' as the hyperlink on the OSM wiki page directs to spam. If there's an LCN it requires a separate relation, not the splitting of an existing *National* route.
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Comment from MacLondon
Here's a map of the London Cycle Network as it was in 2004: https://web.archive.org/web/20040529124642/http://www.londoncyclenetwork.org.uk/uploaded_files/library/documents/LCN_MAP_2004.pdf
The relation (13400058) for this LCN route can be viewed at https://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=13400058 and is tagged with "cycle_network=GB:London Cycle Network".
Signage along the route is a mixture of council signage (which includes segment/links that are not part of the National Cycle Network) and Sustrans' NCN stickers. Along London's NCN4, it is a local network route, a national network route and an international (EV2) network route... but signage-wise all three are represented by the same 'ref=4'. As far as I'm aware, there is no actual signage for EV2 in the UK.
Relations (8)
- National Cycle Network Route 4 (13389284), v1
- National Cycle Network Route 4 (1318928), v447
- National Cycle Network Route 4 (1318929), v861
- National Cycle Network Route 4 (1318930), v426
- National Cycle Network Route 4 (1318931), v108
- National Cycle Network Route 4 (11184369), v2
- National Cycle Network Route 4 (11184374), v2
11184370, v4
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