Changeset: 107091118
Wuppertal/Scharpenacken: landuse und Wegelagen verbessert
Closed by Recoil16
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (17919 en) |
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source | DOP10 NRW; DOP10 NRW 2016; ALKIS NRW; DTK10 NRW; ABK NRW |
Discussion
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Comment from Rusendusen
Why did you add back the parking ground? This still is no parking ground!
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Comment from Recoil16
Because the way had all tags except the actual amenity=parking tag so an accidental removal was likely especially since the changeset that removed the amenity=parking tag makes no mention of why this was at all. In addition, there is close to a dozen vehicles parked there on the latest aerial. So it sure does look like a place used to park vehicles. Even if it is a private parking lot, the amenity=parking tag belongs there. If it is not in fact a parking lot at all then I would suggest you remove the rest of the tags that do not belong there and put a note=* on the way properly describing the situation.
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Comment from Rusendusen
There were only these tags prior to your edits:
access private
surface ground
traffic_sign DE:250,1020-30
vehicle destinationAs I'm local, I need no aerial maps! If any ground a car is able to be parked is marked as parking ground with amenity=parking this would be a clutter and definitely wrong!
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Comment from Rusendusen
Together with that you changed back parts of the LSG to only be forest!
The NSG Herbringhauser Bachtal is even wrongly marked, etc etc
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Comment from Rusendusen
See history:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/399379374 -
Comment from Rusendusen
You've done a whole lotta changes within this one changeset, that it's hard to get the whole bunch of them.
What about a suggestion:
You'll revert the changeset and do more thematic related changesets instead.I'm surely willing to help with my local knowledge.
Would you mind doing this?
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Comment from Recoil16
If you maintain that the area in question is not commonly used to park vehicles, then again I implore you to describe the local situation in an appropriate note=*. Anyone I know would look at the aerial and see close to a dozen cars parked next to each other on a small lot near a recreation ground would assume this is a place for parking, even if private.
Moving on, the bounds of the NSG Herbrunghauser Bachtal as entered by me into OSM match practically 1:1 with the LANUV's data, so please back your accusations up with some proof that it is incorrectly marked.
Also I did not remove any part of an LSG. I did remove a duplicate name of the "Naherholungsgebiet Scharpenacken" that was tagged to the forest. There is only one Naherholungsgebiet Scharpenacken, not two. -
Comment from Recoil16
There is no way in hell I'm reverting this.
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Comment from Rusendusen
Take a look here regarding "NSG Herbringhauser Bachtal":
http://nsg.naturschutzinformationen.nrw.de/nsg/de/fachinfo/gebiete/gesamt/W_006 -
Comment from Rusendusen
The "forest" is part of the Naherholungsgebiet!
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Comment from Recoil16
I still do not see the issue with NSG Herbringhauser Bachtal. Why are we even discussing it here when it isn't even part of this changeset.
If you have a reliablem usable, verifiable source for the border of the Naherholungsgebiet, feel free to adjust the border of way 319561570 accordingly.
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