Changeset: 106585587
בן שמן
Closed by VELOCITY_club
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created_by | iD 2.19.6 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
imagery_used | Custom (https://israelhiking.osm.org.il/Hebrew/mtbTiles/{z}/{x}/{y}.png );.gpx data file |
locale | en |
resolved:crossing_ways:highway-waterway | 8 |
Discussion
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Comment from Yitzchak M
Hi Tsur,
This is Yitzchak. I am having a discussion about bicycle=designated with Zeev, and I would like your input. The Wiki page for bicycle=designated assumes urban use of bicycle=designated, but does not consider non-urban (rural) use of bicycle=designated. In a forest, with no signs or markers present, you have labeled this path as bicycle=designated and NOT given it a relation. Why? Was it simply so that "bicycle path" would appear on the IHM map as opposed to a regular path? I am only asking so as to learn. -
Comment from VELOCITY_club
To answer, I need to know which of the 15 ways that are in this change, are you referring to. Because some here are part of the Herzl trail relation, others are not marked designated. But I just sampled a few.
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Comment from Yitzchak M
Hi Tsur. Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry about that. Here's the way in question:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=17/31.94384/34.96687
By the way, has the war affected you at all? I hope you and your family are alright. Like Zeev, instead of alcohol or narcotics, mapping is my "escapism". -
Comment from Yitzchak M
Sorry about that again. Try this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/278305552/history#map=18/31.94404/34.96698 -
Comment from VELOCITY_club
This specific singletrack was first edited over 9 years ago by valleyofdawn = Guy Shakhar. He added the tag bicycle=designated as you can see from the link you sent me.
I must have just adjusted its location slightly afterwards.
In any case I do not oppose this tag. This singletrack was created by the community of cyclists and motorcycle riders. Not KKL. Its name is Gan Eden. No one bothered creating a relation for it.
Have a look at all the area around this in IHM using the cyclin layer:
https://israelhiking.osm.org.il/map/15.75/31.9426/34.9647
You will see many more.
You will see lots of pirated singletrack -
Comment from Yitzchak M
This is in line with what Zeev wrote to me:
"That brings the next question: what would makes a non-urban segment qualify for a bicycle=designated tag.
Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer. Perhaps it is the de-facto usage by the bikers community?"
And that's the answer, as you just proved. Thank you for the clarification. :-)
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