OpenStreetMap

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When does share alike kick in? 6 months ago

@imagico the LWG is acutely aware that there are cases in which providing the derivative database in full is a burden and doesn't actually make sense. It is likely that we will propose a guideline for discussion.

OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike 6 months ago

The comment at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21221#comment25721 was from me (sorry wrong account).

Name suggestion support in editors 7 months ago

First things first: the name suggestion functionality can be turned of in the "Advanced Preferences",

The new functionality is -only- triggered by entering something for a name tag (with the exception of objects that are highways), the rest of the auto-completion behaviour is unchanged.

When it applys the tags it will always ask for confirmation if it actually replaces something already present. You can always reload the original tags in the tag editor with the undo functionality if somethig goes massively wron. At this point in time however there is no fine grained undo in the tag editor.

Mapbox and the lake of attribution to OSM 7 months ago

@imagico the ODBL enforeces its terms contractualy and not "just" with copyright, so while I would I agree with Sven in the specific case, fair use is unlikely to come in to play in this case.

Current work on vespucci 7 months ago

That is the plan and that is one of the reaons I redid the imagery configuration (so that we have consistent imagery URLs available).

Attribution and all that (a rant) 8 months ago

@imagico the basic issue is that their are far far too many "if"s in this whole matter. You can't simply accuse an individual or company of violating its legal or contractual obligations publically regadless of how much you think you are right, you need to be fairly sure since you might end up on the wrong side of a court case.

@dieterdreist in general opinions offered by our legal counsel cannot be made public.

Report a problem 8 months ago

@bolomap the landing page is for third parties to link to, so it needs to give a short explanation what the project is about, how to help and for those that have a complaint that is not really map related pointers to the correct places to address.

Report a problem 8 months ago

Note quite sure why you would want to get to it from the OSM main page, the page is directed to people that have seen or believe to have seen a concrete issue and not to "normal" visitors.

Updated contributor numbers 8 months ago

@jaakoh I believe the "200'000" number stems both from the Pascal Neis 1st study (which is simply a coulple of years old) and from last-editors numbers which by the nature of the beast tend to be smaller (currently at ~280'000). On top of that we shouldn't forget that we dropped contributions from roughly 15'000 contributors* during the licence change, most of them very very small, but which distorts the registered user vs last editor numbers even a bit more.

The historical run rate for actual contributors at least since 2007 (when the project started getting off the ground proper) has always been at roughly 30% of the registered accounts, the only period this was different seems to have been in 2012.

  • some of these have since come back and have accepted the CTs
Attribution and all that (a rant) 8 months ago

@Tordanik historically we have given a lot of leeway in what we consider appropriate attribution unluckily that leeway has been misused with an increasing intensity. Simply giving in to the misuse is not likely going to be an option with popular support and as I point out in the blog post, we are not asking more than what is the industry standard.

And using common sense is not prohibited, so providing better, more legible and visible placement is always ok.

Attribution and all that (a rant) 8 months ago

@SunColbalt you are seriously misrepresenting the discussion in question, which didn't even remotely concern attribution, the person in question was asking for us to vet his business model wrt the share-alike conditions in the ODbL.

Attribution and all that (a rant) 8 months ago

@iandees

Attribution is not just important for legal reason, it provides postive feedback to our contributors that are interested in seeing that their work is being used and further it is the only way we can assure that users of the end product know from were the data is coming. See the recent threads on hackernews and reddit etc. were there are still a large number of people that have never heard of OpenStreetMap. Google knows very well why it insists on attribution.

Further while the poor developer left alone without any support might make a nice sympathetic pricture, it is -very- far from the truth. The worst offenders are not small mom and pop operators and are fully aware of what they are doing.

Attribution and all that (a rant) 9 months ago

@ThomasZander the LWG has not given a wholesale carte blanche to mobile applications because we've seen people move the attribution off screen based on space arguments when it was clearly not necessary. The current suggestions for appropriate attribution allow enough leeway when it is really (emphasis is on that) difficult to provide a clickable link/button or whatever.

What is the OpenStreetMap convention? Do we tag addresses on buildings or on separate nodes? 11 months ago

The stats seem to be quite compatible with the numbers I generate now and then here http://qa.poole.ch/addresses/

While I typically tend to add the address to the building outline if there is no further information available, there is no doubt in my mind that the best solution is to add it to an entrance node on the building outline (forgetting about indoor mapping and multiple addresses in the same building for now).

Adding the address information to the building itself can and does lead to routing artifacts (being routed to the nearest street to the building and not to the nearest to the entrance) that can be avoided if the entrances are mapped and hold the address info.

Vandalism in Sydney ? 11 months ago

Youo need to report this on the talk-au mailing list, it is rather unlikely that posting it here will have any effect.

PushPin als App für alle 11 months ago

Für "crowd sourced" Übersetzungen gibt es schon 2 Platforme: translatewiki (wird von der zentralen OSM infrastruktur gebraucht) und transifex (wird von iD, vsepucci und anderem verwendet).

Some more Android hackery for efficent mobile surveys about 1 year ago

The main issue is that for the most mainstream mobile device category (Android with roughly 80% global maket share) none, well at least none that I know of, of the surveying apps add the information. If I can get the code I added to osmtracker to work stable enough for general use I will make it available.

Some more Android hackery for efficent mobile surveys about 1 year ago

Well in reality these typically do measure the mangetic field on three axis, and are a bit more complicated than a conventional compass. But the net effect is that you can determine which direction you were pointing the phone camera. There are a couple of "ifs" like for example that you should naturally calibrate the sensors before you set off on a mapping tour and other things you may have to take in to account to get reasonable results, but in principle it works.

Stadt Vechta und Landkreis about 1 year ago

Die Fehler in Vechta sind mit hoher Wahrscheinlickeit von der Lizenzumstellung im letzen Jahr.

Ich hoffe du bist fleissig dabei die Schäden zu beheben :-).

More Addresses about 1 year ago

The US is interesting because it shows that obviously (at least currently) imports are slower than simply collecting the addresses. But I suspect that large scale imports in the US are unavoidable.