Changeset: 95891716
Fixing and adding Arabic names to cities of Lod, Ramle, Rehovot, Ashdod, Ashkelon
Closed by NFZANMNIM
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Discussion
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Comment from OrDal
Hi,
The arabic official name for Ashkelon is أشكلون, and not عسقلان .
The arabic official name for Ashdod is أشدود, and not إسدود .
The arabic official name for Ramla and Lod doe's not contains ال التعريف . -
Comment from NFZANMNIM
I've rarely heard ever, in Arabic, Lod being called simply "Lud" instead of "Al-Lud". Same for Ar-Ramla
For Ashdod and Ashkelon, both varieties are used. "Asdud" and "Asqelan" a bit more often
OSM allows for "official_name" to be inputted, separately from common name. IMO, Ashdod and Ashkelon, the officials would be "name" and the ones I inputted, as "alt_name", for Lod and Ramla, "al- ..." would be "name", without "al-..." would be "Official_name"
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Comment from OrDal
About Ashkelon: I live here. Every arabic speaker I ever met here called it Ashkelon. "Asqalan" is mostly used by Palestinian Media (and thats how it got to be used by some Israeli Arabic speakers).
About Ashdod: Official name is Ashdod. Palestinian media use "Asdud" that came from "Isdud", a nearby former village.
Lod and Ramla: I heard some people calling it without "al", but true most people use al when speaking Arabic (just a point: most of the Arabs living there speaking great Hebrew and not using "al" at all when speaking Hebrew)
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Comment from NFZANMNIM
I've addressed the matters we discussed in a new edit just now.
1. About Ashkelon and Ashdod, yeah I would say I've heard 50/50. I leaned towards your point. So I used the "Ashkelun" "Ashdud" spelling as the main one, and moved the "Asqelan" and "Esdud" spelling to "alt_name"
2. About Lod and Ramla, I've moved the versions without the "al-" to "official name", keeping the versions with "Al-..." as the main one.
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Comment from OrDal
Ok, great
Relations (6)
- רחובות (1246791), v24
- אשקלון (1376782), v15
- אשדוד (1380013), v24
- מועצה אזורית ברנר (1380426), v22
- רמלה (1381458), v14
- לוד (1381532), v15
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