Changeset: 149416920
I am restoring a fairly large edit I made to the Greg Greg area, where I used Google Maps and allhomes.com.au as supplementary sources. All the information used to edit the map was found in other sources, with Google and allhomes being used to confirm.
Closed by elipoloos
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changesets_count | 126 |
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created_by | osm-revert 1.3.6.240320 |
revert:id | https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/149390712 |
website | https://revert.monicz.dev |
Discussion
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Comment from tekim
You can't use Google Maps to "confirm" information or as a "supplemental" source. This edit still violates Google's terms of use, just removing Google Maps as a source doesn't make it "right"
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Comment from elipoloos
As I said, in the strictest sense I did use Google and AllHomes as supplemental sources; however, and this is key, not a single edit would be any different had I not touched Google Maps or AllHomes ~at all~. I simply added them as a courtesy, and because I am a new editor I was unaware of Google and the Domain Group's copyright policies. I apologise for any misunderstanding from my wording in the changeset note.
Thanks and apologies again. -
Comment from tekim
Google Maps terms of use make no distinction between use in the "strict sense" and regular "use", nor does it indicate that using it as a "supplemental source" is ok. It doesn't matter if "not a single edit would be different" if you had not used Google Maps, the fact is, you used it, and that is a violation of the terms of use. There was nothing wrong with the wording in your changeset source. You were honest and admitted that you used Google Maps. As a new user you can be forgiven for using Google Maps, but reinstating the edits once you have been made aware of the facts is a different matter.
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Comment from elipoloos
Ok that makes sense I see. How do I go about fixing it then? Do I double check everything without Google? Because you could say I already did that, because I had more than one source for the addresses I used. Namely, the address data comes from SixMaps, but also from Bing Maps, which I used as a triple check on top of Google Maps.
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Comment from nevw
Bing Maps is also not suitable as a source for osm.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing_Maps -
Comment from elipoloos
well oh dang it :/ I need to learn how to check licensing clearly lmao. what now then? I delete 2 weeks of work?
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Comment from nevw
I expect most of us have had to abandon very large editing sessions from time to time for various reasons, including getting hopelessly lost in the complexity of the data in some places.
We also would have used some copyrighted sources whilst learning the rules, but they are unable to be used without explicit permission from the copyright holders.
Some open data sources also require explicit permission to use, depending on the licence.
These things are of part of the process of becoming familiar with the osm.
This is a useful site to check if we have obtained permission to use...
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Sources
I recently learned when copyrighted material has been used to add to osm, it is reverted and then redacted.
The osm Data Working Group do the redactions but anyone can revert problem edits.
I suggest contacting the Data Working Group via email at data@openstreetmap.org
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group
with a brief explanation and a link to the changesets as the changeset comments are informative.
They can then make a judgement and if necessary do both the revert and redaction.
If you prefer that I or @tekim does this instead, that's fine.
...and keep on mapping :) -
Comment from elipoloos
thank you :) I'll email them then
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