Changeset: 130781188
Reverting some made-up names in a made-up language. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130767955
Closed by SomeoneElse_Revert
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Discussion
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Comment from SomeoneElse_Revert
This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 130767955, 130768329, 130768420.
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Comment from blxght
All countries in OSM have had Esperanto translations (another 'universal' constructed language) for 7 years and it wasn't seen as controversial. The wiki only states languages from fiction shouldn't be added. What changed? An actual reason to revert would be the source using an incompatible license
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Comment from JeroenHoek
There is probably a good argument to be made about Esperanto having at least a significant number of speakers (Esperanto is spoken by some two million people, Toki Pona by a handful¹.), but it would be good to document that.
1: https://www.yayesperanto.com/how-many-people-speak-esperanto/
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Comment from JeroenHoek
(Amusingly, Klingon is actually spoken by more people than Toki Pona.)
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Comment from blxght
Toki Pona has way more speakers - I'm not sure what the source of that site is. Even the official book meant to teach it has more ratings. It's a really popular conlang in nerd spaces, the community is quite big (not as big as esperanto, but not small!), videos covering it get hundreds of thousands of views, I'm pretty sure even I know more than 100 people that speak it because you can become fluent within a day if you're determined.
And regardless, the amount of speakers proobably shouldn't matter, since it would be exclusionary to indigenous languages with thousands of years of history spoken exclusively by many -
Comment from OpenStreetMapMapper
Considering there is an Esperanto OpenStreetMap wiki, it seems permitted! I suggest you add back the Esperanto names.
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Comment from SomeoneElse
@OpenStreetMapMapper - for the avoidance of doubt, I haven't explicitly removed any Esperanto names; I just reverted a change that wasn't compatible with OSM's license that added some names in a different made-up language. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130767955 for the rest of the discussion, including about the verifiability of these names.
- Kenya (192798), v90
- Djibouti جيبوتي (192801), v57
- Isle of Man (62269), v66
- South Carolina (224040), v134
- Lëtzebuerg (2171347), v129
- West Virginia (162068), v108
- Nigeria (192787), v154
- Guyana (287083), v136
- Bermuda (1993208), v71
- Тоҷикистон (214626), v185
- Ohio (162061), v248
- Moldova (58974), v438
- San Marino (54624), v79
- Rhode Island (392915), v108
- New Jersey (224951), v135
- United States Virgin Islands (286898), v44
- Louisiana (224922), v77
- India (304716), v1147
- Kosova / Kosovo (2088990), v457
- Brunei (2103120), v69
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