Changeset: 124535934
Rakvere, added linnaosa names and boundaries via maa-amet data.
Closed by Apolemus
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18513 de) |
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source | Estonia Cadastre (Maaamet); (Maaamet) Eesti aadressiandmete süsteemi infosüsteemi mitteametlikud piirkonnad (Kiht sisaldab Eesti asumite ja mitteametlikke linnaosade andmeid.); names from KNR: Kohanimeregistri avalik teenus (Maaamet) |
Discussion
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Comment from Pikse
Maybe it'd be better to use place=quarter (or even place=neighbourhood)? Currently names seem a little too prominent on osm.org: suburbs are about as prominent as names for settlements of type alev/alevik (displayed from zoom level 12). While these suburbs are likely less known than many villages (place=hamlet, displayed from zoom 14). Possibly labels for small sections of some other small cities in Estonia could be checked, too.
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Comment from Apolemus
I would consider this very much mapping for the renderer then. I saw the problem before but the categorisation (also with the possible looseness of borders) matches the definition in the wiki.[1]
Maybe we would have to find new definitions (based on wikipedia definitions of these british terms of course) for the Estonian case again, which I can try to deal with but not in the next weeks.
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Comment from Pikse
To me the choice between suburb/quarter/neighbourhood seems just arbitrary. All these are broadly defined and I wouldn't say that definitions of the latter two are less applicable here. It sort of would be mapping for the renderer, but then again we might think that osm.org styles de facto establishes how place size/prominence types compare to each, and there doesn't seem to be better criterium based on which to choose between given three place types in this case.
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Comment from Pikse
Or, in addititon to comparison to settlements neightbouring the city, we might also compare subcity places of Rakvere to these of other Estonian cities. Hierarchically, to start from the top, largest subcity places in Estonia are city disticts (linnaosad) in Tallinn. So we might check which place type is used for the latter (currently suburb) and then use lower level place types (quarter or neighbourhood) within other Estonian cities since these don't have subcity places that are nearly as big as city districts in Tallinn.
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Comment from Apolemus
Every tagging in OSM is just arbitrary but has some traditions which we should follow also for the Estonian data since otherwise it is not comparable to other countries anymore. I agree that place=suburb tends to imply a size which the subcity places in e.g. Rakvere don’t have. But the tagging I used is not uncommon in other countries either, also for small places! But since Tallinn’s asumid have around the same inhabitant size of Tartu’s linnaosad I agree it would be good to change the subcity place tagging in the places I’ve done earlier to place=quarter (since in Tartu there are smaller entities which already have place=neighbourhood). I will do it in the next days.
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