Changeset: 117096437
remove skiing tags
Closed by jpere
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Discussion
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Comment from TomPar
Hello. Why are you removing these nordic skiing tags? I personally wouldn't add them to such trails...but they are not "wrong". Please provide an explanation. Thanks.
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Comment from jpere
These trails are multi-use trails, walking, horseback riding, biking, skiing, snowshoeing, etc. Tagging the trail for Nordic skiing causes some renderers to show the trail specifically as a ski trail confusing our trail users.
Groton Trails Committee
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Comment from TomPar
Please consider that your issue is with the map render and not the validity of the tagging. Which mapping products are you referring to? I bet there's a map out there that renders "horse=yes" trails differently too.
Can you explain how the nordic ski tagging is inaccurate?
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Comment from jpere
We know the issue is with the renderer, we're using mapbox outdoors tiles. Removing the nordic ski tags seems the most workable solution for our users.
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Comment from TomPar
There is a way in Mapbox to hide the pistes format (by making the conditional formatting transparent) and just have it show up as a "path"...or whatever. It requires getting a bit more into the guts of the code...but it seems doable on my sample custom Mapbox map.
Your explanation remains about the render, and not about the validity of the tagging. I'm not going to continue to push this...BUT, someone took the time to add those tags, they are valid tags, and you unilaterally removed them for your specific map publishing purposes without previous discussion.
There is an online community of OSM mappers that you can leverage. In the future, I encourage you to reach out before making such mass edits...especially with valid tagging.
BTW, Acton uses Mapbox too for their town trails:
https://trails.actonma.gov/ Perhaps they have some additional insight as to how they navigate shaping OSM data to their specific publishing needs.I appreciate your time volunteering for the trails committee. We all want the same thing: accurate maps for the public. Please keep in mind your organization is not the only user of this data. Thanks.
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Comment from jpere
Can you provide and example of an Acton trail tagged for Nordic skiing? Our map doesn't show any "blue" trails in Acton, whereas there are plenty of blue trails in Great Brook Farm.
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Comment from TomPar
My point with the Acton trails reference was just another datapoint for a town that is using a custom Mapbox implementation.
My Mapbox skills are very low, but here is a very quick edit of the default Mapbox Outdoors map to show the paths with pistes to look like the paths without pistes.
https://api.mapbox.com/styles/v1/tompar/ckzexdhzf000115k8brwgwvcq.html?title=view&access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoidG9tcGFyIiwiYSI6ImNraGN5bmg0NTAxaW4yc29yYWVlZThzMjQifQ.6A4YSe1Bv7aYmgBQe2s5lA&zoomwheel=true&fresh=true#16.29/42.552461/-71.342864This is to just further drive my main point that valid OSM data should not be deleted because it doesn't suit your render needs. The render can/should be altered to suit your specific needs.
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