Changeset: 11098054
Eglise de Latinne
Closed by gerdami
Tags
build | 2.3-236-ge27f26d |
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created_by | Potlatch 2 |
version | 2.3 |
Discussion
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Comment from Eebie
Hello,
I am Flemish OSM contributor also active in Liège. I am completing GR564 and some similar hiking routes. I saw that you did 'RB PN 4b Parc naturel Burdinale - Mehaigne'. I am missing the information how this hiking route is marked on the ground. I am missing the symbol and colours of these route marks. They aren't on the map, 'osmc:symbol' would be nice. The URL 'http://www.grsentiers.org/cgi-bin/topog/rbpn.php' that you give isn't working.Kind regards,
Eebie
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Comment from gerdami
Dear Eebie,
Thank you for contacting me.
I just updated the link to the SGR publication (thanks to Google).
The "randonnées en boucle" (roundtrip routes) actually reuse parts of neighbouring GRs routes, thus share parts of their markings.
Hope it helps.
Regards,
Gerdami -
Comment from Eebie
Hello,
Only the GR routes that are marked should remain in OSM. When route 4B isn't marked, it will be deleted out of OSM at a certain moment. The principles are described in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice (There is French translation but that isn't complete). The relevant principles are 'Mappez ce qu'il y a au sol' and 'Vérification'. This last principle 'les autres contributeurs doivent être aptes à récupérer les mêmes données que vous avez entrées' has as consequence for non marked (parts of) routes, that are only described in a book, is that another mapper who checks a mapped route and doesn't find any marks, can only conclude that this route doesn't exist (anymore) and that it should be deleted in OSM. Good practice principle: 'Corrigez les erreurs' is another principle
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Comment from gerdami
Dear Eebie,
You have a restrictive reading of the guidelines, which by the way are guidelines, not rules.
The guidelines do not say anything about relations, which are logical by definition.
If we were to follow your restrictive view, one would have to delete all maritime lines because they could not be verified on the ground. Bus lines should be removed as well because, unlike railways, there are no physical markings on the roads, a part bus stops. International bus lines such as Eurolines could not be mapped. Same would go for airlines.
Moreover, as regards the walking route I created as relation, it fully complies with the "Verifiability" criteria since the route is described in a real book which can be bought or read by anyone.
Finally, you should read again the introduction of the guidelines that says "Nobody is forced to obey them, nor will OSM ever force any of its mappers to do anything. There might be cases where these guidelines don't apply, or even contradict each other." Not to mention the "Any tags you like principle" (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like) which reads "Remember that OpenStreetMap does not have any content restrictions on tags that can be assigned to nodes, ways or areas. You can use any tags you like, but please document them here on the OpenStreetMap wiki, even if self explanatory." ...
Thank you for your understanding.
Best,
gerdami -
Comment from Eebie
Hello,
I put this issue to the Belgian OSM community on via talk-be. See https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2015-September/thread.html
Regards,
Eebie
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