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New Organised editing guidelines was proposed by DWG. I show my “negative” opition on that guidelines.

At first, I think the previous Directed Editing Policy was a good proposal. I like that. I really pay my respects to DWG’s works.

Most important point

  • Scope is very vague. It could be applied to “mapping parties between friends” even it negate. I like the previous “Director/Directee” idea.
  • Imports without any advance discussion are not acceptable. Use other service.

Previous Directed Editing Policy was better idea

  • It says individual community members and organised editing groups are at same level playing field.
  • must/should/may are properly used. I can easily understand which items are more important.
  • Almost no duties for organised mapper/contributor/directee. Indicated duties are for general OMS mappers, those are not special for organised mapper.

Individual

  • They are not meant to apply to community activities like mapping parties between friends or doing a presentation on OSM at a local club.
    -> The reason this guideline is not to applied to communitiy activities is not shown.
  • any edits that involve more than one person and can be grouped under one or more sizeable, substantial, coordinated editing initiatives.
    -> I can’t understand this definition
  • more substantial initiatives are expected to spend a more substantial amount of effort.
    -> What’s “substantial”? Does it mean “mapping parties between friends” is “insubstantial”?
  • If the activity is a response to an emergency and no advance discussion is possible, the community should be informed as soon as is practical.
    -> No. Use other service. For example, uMap could be your solution.
  • Contributors should respond to communication attempts made in good faith by other contributors.
    -> This duty is for general OMS mappers, those are not special for organised mapper.
  • Any person or organisation whose actions affect the OpenStreetMap project has the duty to care for the project, and should respect the community’s consensus, mapping practices and guidelines.
    -> This duty is for general OMS mappers, those are not special for organised mapper.
  • Edits to the map
    -> (I can’t understand why the name of this section is “Edits to the map”)
  • People looking at individual changesets that are part of a organised mapping activity should be able to tell as soon as they look at a changeset.
    ->(I can’t understand what it means)

Discussion

Comment from Mateusz Konieczny on 19 October 2018 at 10:19

“the community should be informed as soon as is practical” is especially absurd and open to abuse.

You linked directly to the pdf download. Is there a place that describes status of this file? I am not sure is it a proposal, discarded draft or a something else.

“was proposed by DWG” - where and when it was proposed?

Comment from Mateusz Konieczny on 19 October 2018 at 10:20

”->(I can’t understand what it means)” - probably part of changeset comment should mention that it is a part of an organised mapping activity.

Comment from imagico on 19 October 2018 at 10:58

The new PDF draft was first mentioned in the September OSMF board meeting agenda/minutes. It was also introduced to the general OSM community in a diary entry here.

Comment from muramototomoya on 19 October 2018 at 11:05

Hi Mateusz,

Thank you for your explanation. Now I can understand that sentence. It seems very hard to understand for non-native speakers (I’m Japanese).

Comment from muramototomoya on 19 October 2018 at 11:06

Hi imagico,

Thank you for your follow-up. I missed to put links to them.

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