Yes but you mixed highway=bus_stop (which is already there for the node beside the road) and public_transport=stop_position (which is for the node attached to the road).
What you did is not what the guideline says. Look again, in PTv2 highway=bus_stop goes along with public_transport=platform, for the floating node. That explains the removal of highway=bus_stop from all those nodes.

Bonjour.
Le quai est 1 est en service ? C’est officiel à présent ? Important à savoir car dans les données officielles de la SNCB ce sont encore toujours uniquement les quais 3 et 4. Qu’en est-il ?

Hi there!
The answer is no. We apply OSM standards and all-caps names are not to be used on OSM. Exactly for the same reason that we write street names normally even when street signs are all-caps.

Hi there!
We are aware there are still hundreds of mistakes from the past, especially in this part of the country. This changeset aimed at fixing other relations; #5288324 was also modified but only because a way was split. We’ll try to investigate it in the next days.

Hi there!

I get your point. We may have a real difficulty here because De Lijn provides detailed timetables through its GTFS files and they really drew the official itinerary there, and 100% of trips in the timetable found in those files (which are up-to-date, we regenerate them 3 times a week) show this.

I think you are right because if I search on the website it gives a totally different itinerary. I will fix that tomorrow once I get back to the office.

Do you have an idea why DL would show that buses do this extension?
I see the notice here for works on Bruggestraat in Staden. Could that be the cause of an itinerary change?
https://www.delijn.be/nl/lijnen/5916/?richtingCode=0&showImportantAnnouncement=true&detourId=1232948

Kind regards.

This the location reported by GTFS files but there are no bus stops here.

They are already mapped on their correct location:
node/2955183015
node/2955183016

Hi there.

Gent Dampoort is the public name of all stops on the same spot, which is how PT operators present their stop to the public, e.g. on the network map or on outer displays of buses.

Each bus stop node in OSM contains details about how to identify them, the stop code (ref:De_Lijn) and the technical name (name:De_Lijn). This is where you will find the "Gent Dampoort B4" text string. Apps can easily take this string if they need to show all those details. The "Transport Map" layer on the osm.org website also displays local details for whoever needs them.

You can also have a look at the discussion we had for the very same topic a few days ago.
changeset/145411185

Hallo,
Dit is een goede vraag. Volgens De Lijn is er geen verplaatsing (meer) voor die haltes.
Volgens deze pagina (https://www.oudenaarde.be/nl/nieuws/werken-op-en-rond-het-sint-jozefsplein) zitten we nu in fase 2+3, en Bulkendreef is beschikbaar voor het algemene verkeer.
Kan helaas niet overaal ter plaatse gaan controleren maar het lijkt dat de haltes wel terug zijn op de plein. Heb jij misschien informatie hierover?

Voor wat buslijnen betreft is het nu geregeld: 410 wordt omgeleid langs Houtlaan en 411/412 hebben een nieuwe reisweg die hier niet meer komt.

There are two stops with this name in OSM. They are both operated by TEC.

node/2866610882, ref:TECH=H4co109b
node/2866610883, ref:TECH=H4co109a
name:TEC=Comines/Komen Rue de la Victoire/Overwinningstraat

Those stops do exist. They are present in TEC’s current GTFS feed.

It is very trivial to find them on TEC’s website, e.g. https://www.letec.be/Itinerary/Detail%3FOriginStopId%3DH4co109b&JourneyFrom%3DCOMINES~2FKOMEN%2520Rue%2520de%2520la%2520Victoire~2FOverwinningstraat&OriginLatitude%3D50.7712515&OriginLongitude%3D3.0067022&DestinationStopID%3DH4co106d&JourneyTo%3DCOMINES~2FKOMEN%2520SNCB~2FStation&DestinationLatitude%3D50.7713526&DestinationLongitude%3D2.9975617&When%3Dnow&LeaveDate%3D26.01.2024%2520%25C3%25A0%252019%253A20&ArriveDate%3D26.01.2024%2520%25C3%25A0%252019%253A20&How%3Dbus&How%3Dtram&How%3Ddelijn&How%3Dstib&How%3Dsncb&WhenForm%3Dnow&IndexOf%3D0

Please learn how OSM works before dropping changeset comments like this. Had you simply inspected the tags of those stops, you would have easily understood they are *not* run by De Lijn anymore. This changeset perfectly reflects the current situation: those two stops are only operated by TEC.

You are providing a web link to stop 508193 which no longer exists. That is true… but this changeset correctly deleted it, so what is the problem? node/2778102142/history

Please provide the exact reference (OSM object) of what you believe to be incorrect from this changeset, and please explain what "name change" we made and that you claim to be wrong.

Hi there!

Gent Dampoort stops are not only those near the station—the bus station was rearranged quite recently—but also some stops here near the canal.

The 3 stops touched here appear to be correctly located, their ref details and location have a perfect match with official data and they are correctly located on the right-hand side of the road.
* 211804 Gent Dampoort C (node/9149594707)
* 210804 Gent Dampoort D1 (node/9149594709)
* 210805 Gent Dampoort D2 (node/9149594708)

And, again:
* The "name" tag in OSM is the public name, how it appears on stop signs or urban network map if any. Large cities such as Brussels or Antwerp, do not prefix the city name on every stop. Smaller cities (Gent, Brugge, Hasselt…) do.
* "name:De_Lijn" is the field containing the full text string matching the name found on De Lijn’s website, app or GTFS data. This is the place to store the full name containing appendixes such as "D1" or "Perron 1".

Bonjour, Est-il possible d'expliquer plus clairement la « correction » et de mettre la source de la modification svp ?
Ces deux arrêts ne sont pas dans la définition officielle de la ligne, sauf erreur ils ont été rajoutés à titre d'essai. C'est utile de le mentionner et/ou d'ajouter un lien vers la page du site du TEC qui signale ceci. Et ça évitera de rendre vos modifications suspectes.
Important aussi : les lignes de bus sont des relations ordonnées, la prochaine fois veillez à ajouter l'arrêt au bon endroit de la ligne entre Sombreffe et Corroy-le-Château car là vous les aviez ajoutés tout à la fin. On a corrigé.

aub altijd "ref:De_Lijn" gebruiken ipv. "ref" voor het haltenummer, anders wordt de halte niet herkend.
Groeten.

Les arrêts "Komen Fleur de Lin" et "Komen Molen" n’existent plus. Et operator=DLVB est le code pour Vlaams-Brabant, qui n'est pas l'entité qui exploite les lignes de De Lijn dans cette partie du pays.

Attention, ne pas importer des données depuis les GTFS de TEC ou De Lijn car ils contiennent tous les arrêts y compris ceux qui ont été supprimés récemment. Nous sommes occupés à nettoyer la carte de ce côté-ci, et c'est étonnant de voir ces arrêts revenir alors qu'ils ne sont plus desservis.

Attention à ne pas trafiquer le nom de certains arrêts aussi.

Merci.

Thanks for the new stop.

We are updating the routes in this area today. 107 and 144 already done, 155 will follow.

Some advice now: if you want to create a new bus stop, just add a node, a name and an operator. We are now deploying scripts to catch missing entries, so we can find them easily. Do not copy tags from other stops: some codes like ref:De_Lijn or ref:TEC are unique and should not be re-used for other stops.

Do you plan to do more work here with the bus relations?

I see 31 broken relations now and invalid roles for stops. We started fixing them one by one but repairing the damage will take several more hours of work; I prefer asking in case you had plans to do it yourself.

Beste
Deze lijn rijdt enkel vanaf 06/01/2024, toch?
Dit is zeer te vroeg om deze in OSM te mappen. Dit kan reizigers misleiden en haltes die nog niet in gebruik zijn, zullen waarschijnlijk worden gewist door de controlescripts.
Wat kunnen wij hier doen?

Sorry, we have to undo your change.
Tram 4 is currently limited to Zwaantjes. Disruptions that will last for several months are usually included in OSM data.

We added the following tag inside the route relation: "Temporarily shortened in Hoboken Zwaantjes" but you probably missed it.

Yes, true. We added etymology wikidata for hundreds of public transport stops, it was manual work, and apparently for this one I copied the name instead of the ID. Thanks for having changed it.