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Continuity of the work on gender diversity in OSM by Geochicas - SOTM Milan 2018 8 months ago

Thanks. As I said, this diary makes a synthesis, an all synthesis result in a generalization of the ideas. It would be good to make another diary just citing specifically the post-its. I or somebody else from the diversity list should do it, and link this synthesis to the exact transcribed list. You have a good point.

Continuity of the work on gender diversity in OSM by Geochicas - SOTM Milan 2018 8 months ago

If you consider that I have lacked an idea in my summary, please mention it. Thank you @imagico

Continuity of the work on gender diversity in OSM by Geochicas - SOTM Milan 2018 8 months ago

Thanks for your comment Imagico. This is not a subjective selection of ideas but the synthesis and an effort for grouping the ideas written on papers during the brainstorming exercise, with no omission, as the intention of the diary is and says. This is not the raw data, listed in the pad you mention, indeed. This is a synthetic note on the participation of Geochicas at the SOTM. The mail-list on diversity gives the access to the pad and everybody is invited to make other analysis with the results. I’ll clarify this intention to summarize in my diary if it wasn’t clear enough, and correct “I will stop” by “we should stop”. Thanks

¿Cómo la comunidad OSM percibe la igualdad de género en OpenStreetMap? 10 months ago


Como explico en el post, son resultados preliminares ya que solo nos dió tiempo en ese primer momento de analizar los resultados del formulario en español (tenemos 6 otros idiomas), en un mes aproximadamente tendremos los resultados completos.

Por otro lado el tono en canales virtuales no debe de ser normalizado para explicar que aunque algo se experimente como hostilidad no es ninguna hostilidad porque no existe una intención de ser hostil por su autor. Me parece una manera muy limitada de abordar el fenómeno de violencia (en este caso verbal). Si trataramos la violencia en general segun la intención del que la inflige, imagínate en qué sociedad viviríamos (de por sí!) Creo que tampoco podemos pretender saber si cada persona que se expresa de una manera percibida como hostil por otra persona, lo hace con o sin intención. Lo único concreto es el resultado: es decir cómo lo vive el receptor del mensaje. Y esto es lo que expresan las personas en esta encuesta.

Es un poco limitada tambien la idea que expresas de que algo es violento o hostil unicamente si le damos poder o si decidimos percibirlo de tal manera. Vaya negación de la violencia como fenómeno. Porqué no entonces considerar que un tocamiento por un extraño en un espacio público, si está hecho con deseo sincero y cariñoso, entonces es positivo y no violento… La violencia no se define desde su autor sino desde el o la que la vive.

Otras precisiones: - Tratamos aquí de una encuesta que se interesa en la experiencia de las mujeres, y de cómo los hombres ven estas situaciones hacia las mujeres. No es un sesgo, es un enfoque particular.
- Preguntamos allí sobre los espacios comunitarios, que incluyen pero no se limitan a los canales vituales de la comunidad. Incluyen espacios presenciales, y de hecho muchos encuestados se refieren a estos.

Más detalles proximamente.

How does the OpenStreetMap community perceive gender equity? 10 months ago

Hi everybody Yes Glassman, we’ll present final results in English in the global SOTM and publish new infography in English, very soon. We’ll present it here in the diaries and in Geochicas networks.


It is not clear that inequality is not a problem, but (1) that unequal gender representation does not directly impact the quality of the database, and that (2) it does not require necessarily action from the community because we should respect the lack of interest (sometimes considered natural, sic) of women in the themes of data, cartography, and science in general. This is a trend of commentary seen very frequently in the various communication channels.

Although we have many Geochicas, sociological, geographical, anthropological interest very pronounced because of our experience and careers, we had to limit the survey to a minimum in order to ensure the response rate, which is always very difficult for autonomous surveys, as you probably know. The objective is not to analyze the underlying reasons for opinions and feeling of hostility or discrimination, but to know the experience in a relative way (genres between them), so we prefer to concentrate the investigation on the experience and keep it short. This inquiry responds to a necessity and a real observation, and not to a curiosity. There are large and many testimonials of women about their experience of hostility in the community (in general in data and technology communities), so the purpose of the survey was not to compare their experience of hostility with the experience of hostility by men, as if we sought to verify comparatively the legitimacy of this feeling, but to know it in more detail, this lived experience of women and groups under-represented. There are differentiated questions for men to know their view of hostility toward under-represented gender groups in general.

I hope I answered clearly -my English is approximative.


Share your story: Open Gender Monologues 10 months ago

Hi everybody,

To participate here with not only “hearing” & “listening” contributions, but with data from experience, I share the preliminary results of the survey that Geochicas has developped last year and that will be presented in SOTM Milan, where OSM contributors clearly express discrimination (with no details in this first analysis, I’m sorry) and distortion between male/female’s perception of the inequalities, hostilities, and discrimination.

It’s not my individual voice (this one can be seen as well but some of you downplay individual testimonies, and that’s preoccupying) but the expression of a large community, and we will incorporate a larger one in the next summary of the results.

Validation feedback can provide important social affirmation about 2 years ago

Comment for Tekim. Actually, you can receive (I think it is by default) the messages to your email, so you can read them as a new mapper. I am not an intensive mapper, because I focus more effort to build community than mapping. So, I can be considered as a beginner, in the sense that I am sensitive to messages from the community. And I can testify that I have felt several times unmotivated by messages, very exigent, on the quality of my draws and tagging, unable to detect terraces on building and this type of things, or drawing with not enough precision, on bad imagery in an emergency context (but messages were out of HOT platform, time after the TM). I can say that yes, it is a factor that has negatively determined my practice of mapping. Of course everybody reacts differently. I don’t consider I didn’t “get it”, but think that the sense of community and positive support have a variable role according to the types of mappers. Secondly, as an active promoter of OSM, in the trainings we give to students in Mexico, we decide to value the local knowledge above the technical abilities. In a second phase, new mappers learn from the exigence of the community, but it works better if expressed in a positive tone.

Validation feedback can provide important social affirmation about 2 years ago

Hi, very interesting post! I think the reaction of mappers with feedback varies a lot and totally depends on the mapper profile, type/style, his motivation, and his relation with personal validation need. That confirms to me the importance of studying this last part. Would be interesting a gender-based analysis of these reactions too, and how the general tone of the feedback influences the participation of women. #GeoChicas