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Welcome to the collective, KLL!
Everyone is probably well familiar with hot_tech’s right turn and TM Tomorrow ambitions - our main goal being to work toward building more of our tech with community.
Our first step in putting these words into action is by building and investing in contributors, makers, tinkerers and users to support the maintenance, evolution and growth of humanitarian OSM tools,
It is therefore with great excitement and pleasure that I have the opportunity to officially announce the first member of this tech_collective: Kathmandu Living Labs who will be taking on the maintenance of the HOT tasking manager for the next 6 months (and possibly beyond).
Each month KLL, hot_tech (and a future community product owner), will be sitting down to identify and triage the most pressing issues expressed by the Tasking Manager community. These issues will be available for viewing as a public project on our TM github. KLL will then be applying their brilliant minds to tackling these issues to best serve the needs of Tasking Manager collective and the wider HOT and OSM communities. Monthly deployments will then be handled in collaboration with the hot_tech core team (shout out to DK and Yogesh for their often thankless behind the scenes efforts on this).
If you have issues, features or enhancements that are either new, or outstanding, I highly encourage you to start getting them shaed and consolidated in the TM github repo. Triage will be based on community resonance and response, so if there are others you know that share your issues, bringing others around these common issues will bring them up in the triage.
I for one am very excited about step toward TM tomorrow and I encourage everyone to welcome KLL and and engage in the #tasking-manager channel or submit issues via the TM github
Discussion
Comment from SomeoneElse on 8 February 2022 at 19:22
Is an English translation of this post available?
:)
Comment from bo_hot on 8 February 2022 at 19:29
I’m not sure I understand?
Comment from SomeoneElse on 8 February 2022 at 20:28
I understand most of the words; it’s just that when they’re joined together they don’t make sense (for example - what exactly is a “future community product owner”?)
I can guess some, since I’ve dealt with salespeople fluent in corporate BS for many years. I presume that:
means “… will fix some bugs” and
means “Please log any bugs you know about”.
However, many of the people that I’d hope you’d want to read whatever you’ve written may not be, especially if they haven’t previously been exposed to this particular American flavour of corporate-speak.
As an aside, documents hosted on Google and Slack channels may well not be accessible to everyone. OSMF has a committent to open communications channels; shouldn’t Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team have something similar? Don’t you want what you write to be visible to everyone?
Andy
(for the avoidance of any doubt, writing in an entirely personal capacity)
Comment from bo_hot on 8 February 2022 at 20:44
Thanks for detailing that out. Many of the presumptions and assumptions you’ve made are unfortunately incorrect.
I’m Australian and write in a relaxed style that expresses who I am, in an effort to connect with people in more conversational form.
I also don’t like to assume someone else’s knowledge of English is ‘lesser’ just because they aren’t from an English speaking country, that seems a bit patronizing.
But I appreciate the response.
Comment from lyx on 8 February 2022 at 22:49
Dear bo_hot, it is hard to convey “tone” in written comments, but I get the impression that you interpret the comments from Andy as some form of attack (which I don’t think they are, but I could be wrong of course). I assure you that this my message is not intended as an attack but as (hopefully helpful) comment. Words like “product owner” (a specific role in an “agile project management process”) will be meaningless to people that have never worked with these project management methods. Also many people will know “triage” only in the context of medical treatment in a battlefield or pandemic situation, if at all. So please don’t feel attacked but consider that your message might be understood better if you avoid phrases that are not commonly used or are used differently outside the specific context of your message, or if you use them add an explanation. Greetings from Germany, Wolfgang
Comment from SomeoneElse on 8 February 2022 at 23:34
Indeed, I had attempted to reply in a humorous manner that the meaning of this diary entry really wasn’t very clear. I’m sorry that didn’t work, and I’ve messaged bo_hot privately to apologise about that and suggest what might have helped better communication in the first place.
Comment from bo_hot on 9 February 2022 at 08:24
Thanks both,
No offence assumed or recieved.
Although I do apprceciate the exercise in linguistic engineering, perhaps before we dive into how the post was written, it would be great to focus on what it is about.
Why don’t you both join me first in welcoming KLL, which was the intent of the post, and then we can take the grammatical gymnastics into another space. :)
Comment from lyx on 11 February 2022 at 00:27
Glad we could clear that up. Sending friendly greetings to KLL, who have been quite active in the OSM world for almost a decade now and still going strong.