I was preparing a video tutorial about stiles (online tomorrow morning on my channel). Even though I have mapped quite a few stiles while hiking, I came to the realization that I had mapped a lot of them wrong (mostly using OSMAnd, where I have to remember a lot of tags, bc they’re not presets) after reading the wiki page barrier=stile. Oops. While reading the page, it occurred to me that it was a bit messy, so I tried to tidy it up a bit and tried to find some examples for such cases that are a bit tricky to decide, like the stepover
. I had tagged some of those as ladder
, because they included more than one step.
I also took a look at the taginfo for the stile values, and boy, was there chaos! I mean, we’re mostly all humans, so we make mistakes and typos which might then be propagated through auto-text in JOSM or copying and pasting, who knows. I actually found one mistake I made myself this way. Some were obvious typos (steover
) that I could correct without having visited the site, for others, I contacted the person who had added them (sometimes as far back as 8 years ago, so they couldn’t remember, and just had to delete the stile=*
line, unfortunately).
But I also looked at commonly used ones like hipster
and added explanations to the wiki page. Two I had to translate into English, and I hope I did it correctly, because they were both in languages I don’t speak, so I used image search to figure out what could be meant. I reduced the list from 4 pages of values to 2.5, so it’s a bit tidier now.
I also saw a strange squeezer stile on Twitter (coincidentally) and asked the person to upload the photograph to Wikicommons.
I noticed three undocumented values that I think describe the same situation and started a discussion on the Discussion page. Please have a look.
I recommend getting mapillary or similar from hiking trails, if you can, because it would help with mapping stiles. I know it’s a bit awkward, but it is possible to hold a selfie-stick with a phone to capture images, even if you walk for hours. Or use an action camera - I have yet to try that.
Discussion
Comment from SomeoneElse on 27 August 2022 at 12:33
Thanks for tidying these up!
I had a look at these in UK and Ireland a while ago (using values from https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe/britain-and-ireland/keys/stile#values )
These (at least) are definitely valid distinct values:
Other names for those 4 seem to be:
Typos and others:
Personally I think I’ve mapped osm.wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dstile#stile=insulated_section/_hose_etc as gates rather than stiles - and I’ve tended to not map them if they’re obviously temporary / movable (often the case for cattle, less so for horses).
Comment from SK53 on 27 August 2022 at 16:03
I think we’re pretty sure the stile=hipsters are squeezers, as I think several people have wondered about them over the years.
I’ve now posted a picture on the wiki of a stile with “insulated_section”. Wonder if @SomeoneElse is also thinking of insulated sections with a hook which can be detached, which would be closer to a gate than the stepover action required when all there is a metre of insulated wire.