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Wrong point 1: Not only the Chinese Taiwan and the Chinese mainland belong to the same level on the map, but also some areas of southwestern China are missing.

Error 2: The language code (Taiwan) should indicate Taiwan, China

The map of China includes vast areas of land (Mainland China and Taiwan) and China Sea (East China Sea, South China Sea, Yellow Sea and Bohai Sea).

The map is not only an identification, but also the territorial and sovereign integrity of a country.

The one-China principle refers to the principle that both mainland and Taiwan belong to one China. It was formed in the just struggle of the Chinese people to defend China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and has an unshakable fact and legal basis. The one-China principle is a broad consensus of the international community, and it is also the norm of international relations confirmed by the UN General Assembly Resolution 2758.

Hope the platform will pay attention to it. The creators of such maps will be given titles and other treatments.

Discussion

Comment from SomeoneElse on 19 January 2021 at 13:13

Hello,

For more information about OSM handles territorial disputes, please read https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf .

Best Regards,

Andy, from OSM’s Data Working Group (see https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group for who we are)

Comment from ndrw6 on 19 January 2021 at 17:52

U32123 Edits 0 Diary 2 Mapper since: 19 January, 2021

Dear U32123, welcome to Openstreetmap. If you look at the map of China, there is still a lot of work needed. China is far behind other developed countries, including Taiwan you are so concerned about. Your contribution would be very valuable.

Comment from hanchao on 20 January 2021 at 09:55

OpenStreetMap目前无法保证遵守各国的法律政策。比如在藏南地区,遵守中国的法律政策,印度会不高兴,遵守印度的法律政策,中国会不高兴。所以对于争议地区,没办法一碗水端平。除非针对各个国家各出一份遵守律政策地图,Google是这么做的。基于此OpenStreetMap基本原则是尊重既成事实。

OpenStreetMap只是一份地图数据库,你觉得过国界、地名不合适,完全可以使用合法的数据替换掉他,自己搭建一份符合法律政策地图。

就像ndrw6说得,中国现在的数据还缺失很多道路、建筑、餐馆等等。这需要大量的工作,如果你有兴趣,可以加入我们完善地图。

Comment from Supaplex on 21 January 2021 at 05:00

Just as hanchao explains the Sino-Indian border dispute, that India and China have their own way to claim their territory. The same applies to Taiwan, which is a de facto independent Nation. Get used to the fact how OpenStreetMap project works, if you violated the rules, you will be banned from editing.

Comment from ndrw6 on 22 January 2021 at 10:26

hanchao,

My utmost respect to you guys working on OSM in China. Even in its current state, an offline Maps.me in a pocket is a life saver, and it isn’t just my opinion. One challenge is a quickly expanding infrastructure, especially public transport. This is a unique challenge, as it doesn’t compare to any other place in the world.

Comment from cRaIgalLAn on 28 January 2021 at 19:17

With reference to Supaplex 21 Jan 2021 at 05:00. It is openstreetmap policy that discussions should be helpful and positive. I noticed that the comment referred to was perhaps angry and raised a threat. That is unfortunate and does not follow the guidelines. It would be better if the comment helpfully assisted the diary owner to understand that OSM has just one policy for mapping of all the very many disputed territories across the world.

Comment from assanges on 29 January 2021 at 11:47

With all due respect, I don’t think thats the case. Many of you mappers may think that Supaplex might be a little bit too harsh, yes, only if the user is a newbie. However this specific user has no known edits but only two diaries which were extremely provocative, IMHO a firm language would be great reminder to he/she/xe OSM is not a place asking alignment on specific political views nor affiliations. Cheers.

Comment from cRaIgalLAn on 29 January 2021 at 12:11

Re: assanges 29 Jan 2021 I’m following an OSMF policy that we choose to be nice to newbies without any exceptions. If you read the minutes, even the most evil vandals are blocked and removed in astonishingly polite, patient, civil language. The reason we behave like adults, exercise self-discipline and sit on our anger is that we are trying to build an inclusive organisation and it is very clear that displays of arrogance, aggression and flame-wars just drive the less-aggro people away.
There is some talk of creating an OMSF moderating committee to police unfriendly posting, but even when that is implemented the lists or comment sequences will be expected to self-regulate. This discussion is just that - a comment sequence self-regulating. Thank you for participating.

Comment from assanges on 29 January 2021 at 12:51

I totally agree with you that we should be nice to newcomers, that chap obviously does not come in peace, being nice and polite should not be confused with neglect nor frail. Cheers.

Comment from SomeoneElse on 29 January 2021 at 12:59

@cRaIgalLAn > I noticed that the comment referred to was perhaps angry and raised a threat

Presumably the threat you refer to is “if you violated the rules, you will be banned from editing”? Are you seriously suggesting that people who violated the rules should (if all else fails) not be banned from editing?

we choose to be nice to newbies without any exceptions

You’re correct that we do try and help people understand what OSM is and how OSM works. We (the DWG) get lots of requests along the lines of “your website does not show my country’s claimed boundaries” (when those claimed boundaries don’t match the reality on the ground). We get lots of accusations of “being on the side of the other side” in border disputes (often by both sides).

However, an account that has signed up purely to create two political diary entries and (despite the encouragement above) hasn’t done any OSM mapping probably isn’t here to improve the quality of OSM in China or elsewhere. We certainly ought to give everyone the benefit of the doubt (hence my reply above) but sometimes it is necessary to be direct as well.

For anyone unaware of the background here, see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55851052 et al. You could certainly argue that the statement by Wu Qian reported there “constitutes a threat”.

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