Remapping Kristiansand

Posted by Jarl Arntzen on 31 July 2012 in English (English)

As I've just returned from a long holiday, travelling between various hotels in Italy, I've learned to appreciate the directions from the OSM-based GSM.

In short, Italy is very well mapped for tourists. The only exception being wrongly mapped one-way streets here and there.

I intend to give those visitors to Kristiansand using OSM the same service by prioritizing and properly mapping roads from the tourists perspective.

My priorities here are: 1. One-way streets properly marked. 2. Restaurants, cafes, grocery stores properly marked. 3. Tourist sights available.

Edit: + 2.1 Hotels, hostels, motels, any accomodation at all + 2.2 Minibanks/ATMs

Comment from Skippern on 1 August 2012 at 01:24

And maybe also hotels and guest houses. Last time I visited Kristiansand I stayed in a hotel looking like it was built from container modules, just like those temporary villages that pop up next to large construction sites.

Comment from Sanderd17 on 1 August 2012 at 08:52

I'm aiming to have Ypres tourist ready before '14 (they expect a lot of tourists during the years '14-'18.

It's going pretty well this far:

Comment from Jarl Arntzen on 1 August 2012 at 16:01

@Skippern: Yeah. The oh-so-pretty "Budget Hotel", right next to the train station. It's been there for at least 10+ years so they must make some kind of profit. There are a number of alternatives, although I've never been to any of them as I'm a Kristiansand resident.

But yes, I'll definitely place emphasis on hotels, hostels and guest houses. We normally made use of some kind of site like for finding and booking the rooms ahead of travelling to the next town to make sure we found good deals. After that we would have to eyeball the Google map on the site and manually find the same spot on the GPS map since the hotel name would not be searchable in the GPS app. Adding the hotel names to the right coordinates would at least make finding them a little bit easier.

I can imagine lots of people will just head to the next town and then locate any nearby hostel.

Comment from Jarl Arntzen on 1 August 2012 at 16:05

@Sanerd17: Looks very cool. This is exactly the level of mapping detail I'd learned to appreciate approx 30 mins after arriving to the hotel when I'm feeling a bit peckish and start wondering where we'd go for dinner. Excellent for travelling by foot :)

Comment from Gnonthgol on 1 August 2012 at 21:56

Kristiansand was hit quite bad by the redaction bot. The most active contributor in the area did not accept the new contributor terms. We are coordinating the remapping at Kristiansand have good imagery from bing but we need people on the ground.

There is also a mailing list for the norwegian comunity at And there is always people on in the #osm-no channel.

Good luck, Gnonthgol

Comment from Jarl Arntzen on 1 August 2012 at 22:13

Kool! I did notice that all almost all the roads in Vågsbygd were added back within this evening. That was fast. Thanks!

None of the roads are named yet so I'll go for a nice, long bicycle trip on Friday evening with a freshly printed map and take note of all residential road names around Vågsbygd. Expect log and map updates by Saturday or Sunday.

I'll consider doing the same for other areas of Kristiansand too, unless there are other sources for names.

(Yes, I'm just looking for any excuse to work out :) )

Comment from Gnonthgol on 1 August 2012 at 22:28

Yes, I did map a lot of Vågsbygd from Bing. However there were some construction on the imagery that I do not know how it looks now. And there is all names, waytypes (I tried guessing most of them), restrictions and speed limits.

There are no other sources of data in Norway except Bing imagery and surveying.


Comment from Jarl Arntzen on 2 August 2012 at 07:14

I can confirm that all mapping of current and future main road construction is correct in Vågsbygd. In Hannevika, things seem 99% correct and I'll visually confirm it the next time I'm passing by.

I put all planned tunnels on level -1 and -2 and corrected a few bridges to +2 to clean up. The latter is very hard to spot from the air.

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