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Just found out that it is 17.

Generally speaking, to get full insight on this matter one should probably read/follow Mapillary’s Github issue #1366.

Towers and Masts

@BushmanK Thank you for shedding light on and explaining a very important topic in your diary entry, which basically comes down to definitions. I am all for clear definitions.

People are arguing about that only because almost every person has an own tradition of tagging and thinks that all others have a similar one.

This is true. But traditions and thinking to oneself have never brought any progress nor have been ever good advice in the long run. Now, I am not saying that traditions are a bad thing per se, since every progress which has been proven to be correct and effective can or should become a tradition, yet every tradition should constantly be under scruteny for improvement, sometimes even for abolition or revolution.

Belief, that there is any global consistency in tagging masts and towers is just a fallacy.

This is also true. However, it is never to late to start a standardization or term (tag) definition process. This is exactly what organizations like ISO, W3C, IEC, or national agencies like ANSI or DIN, or even professional associations like the IEEE do. All of these organizations not only work on standards but first and perhaps foremost on definitions, mainly to establish a common effective and efficient language for communication between members and implementers of standards. Basically, the same applies to definitions of tags in OSM. If you have good thoughts on definitions and the capacity to produce definitions (or propositions) accepted by a lot of people (mappers) then spending time on this is as helpful as mapping itself. Sometimes just clarifying definitions to accommodate for the ever evolving changes in use of language may be as helpful as developing a new definition. So, please do not stop here or let anybody tell you that things cannot be improved. ;-)

because most people do not look up definitions

@dieterdreist There is no excuse for ignorance or laziness, although I am aware that you probably did not intend to excuse this sort of behavior or had that in mind while making your statement—you’ve simply been describing what uninformed masses do. I have found that learning definitions and pondering on dissociation of definitions is key to enable anybody to become an expert in any field or to simply learn about the world which surround us, and finally to enable one to efficiently communicate with others. So yes, I would love and urge everybody to actually learn definitions (in every field or subject) instead of just relying on vague self indulged feelings about terms and their definitions. Learning definitions is indeed a tedious task but in the end it is very rewarding for better understanding the world, of course including OSM.

It’s almost impossible to establish a tag with a different meaning than the word that is use to describe it.

I did not get the impression that this is what @BushmanK had in mind. @BushmanK’s conclusion seems to be rather that the description of definitions of man_made=tower and man_made=mast should be made more clear first, and only then new tags could be introduced to make further, more precise distinctions in types of towers and masts.

Raster map tiles for Mapillary traces

What is the maximum zoom level (z or {0} parameter)?

What is the update period or update latency for new sequences and/or deleted photos/sequences?

The only quirk that I have found while using in JOSM is that tiles which do not have any sequences are not served, i.e. return a 403 HTTP error instead of a fully transparent tile. Can you fix this?

Raster map tiles for Mapillary traces

The tileset address is https://d6a1v2w10ny40.cloudfront.net/v0.1/{z}/{x}/{y}.png

Hey, thank you! Just a few days ago I was looking for this, especially since the tile set on the old Mapillary website ceased to receive updates. This is really helpful.

Mapping my home town : Gobichettipalayam

Looks great, phenomenal job! Please continue mapping! Please also try engaging other local people in your effort. I am wishing you all the best and good luck!