Changeset: 91849001
Fix minor errors
Closed by user_5589
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Discussion
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Comment from SK53
Please do me the courtesy of asking why I've tagged something in a particular way, instead of 'fixing' it. I have paritally reverted this changeset because it broke more things than allegedly fixed. The Crane Bungalows were entirely validly tagged as building=bungalow, the additional tag indicated more precisely that they are a particular (very rare) type of unusual prefabricated bungalow. Yes another key might be preferred, but if you don't understand a key value please don't alter it without asking why it is tagged that way. BTW this change was much more substantial than a "minor fix, and should have been recorded as such in the changeset comments.
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Comment from user_5589
It was an unfortunate editing, and I should have been more careful. Classic case of using IDs' automatic improvement suggestions a bit carelessly.
However, that said, using a deprecated tag like that does carry some risk. To me building:type does not describe a specific design like that. If it were not deprecated it would designate a bungalow or a detatched house or a terraced house or similar. A better (and not deprecated) tag would seem to me to be building:design or something similar. That would indicate a specific design of building, rather a general type of building.
Still there we have it. So my way out of this would be to tag things as building:design, rather than the deprecated building:type. That way the information is recorded, and it won't fall foul of ID's outdated tags search.
How extensive is the area of those houses? Is it essentially all of the area between the ring road and the Jubilee Campus down to Charnock Avenue?
If you haven't already I'll go through those houses in that area and tag to restore the information where it's been removed.
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Comment from SK53
Whilst I appreciate that iD often makes somewhat erroneous suggestions, as an experienced editor I would expect you not to accept them as gospel.
I note that "building:type" was only prominently marked as deprecated on the wiki in 2019 not in 2013 when I used the tag. You just cannot assume that: a) someone is aware that a tag has been deprecated by some group of contributors (often a small group); and b) that the tag was not added before anyone suggested it was deprecated. Always the goal should be to leave OSM data no worse than before one edited.
In practice I haven't actually correctly identified the Crane houses: there are very similar houses built almost contemporaneously in brick (but also rendered). There is a plan in this document (I have seen originals btw) https://committee.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/Data/Wollaton%20and%20Lenton%20Abbey%20Area%20Committee%20(Area%207)/20110215/Agenda/SuttonPasseysDraftAppraisalV1%20-%2045933.pdf, and once you know the difference it's easy to check on Mapillary as I have traces on most of the roads.
The building:design suggestion is a good one, and will work better than building:type. I do note the key is not documented & has low usage. To date I have used SK53:NCC_building tags as placeholders (partly because I don't know the original design numbers), see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Buildings/Council_Housing. Others such as BISF, Tarran-Newland, Wimpey No-fines would fit well with building:design.
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