The description tag is not for advertising
Please alert me if I made a mistake when removing description tags.
Hi TravGW -- please don't perform these continent-sized mass edits. They are very difficult for both humans and software to process.
I consider your motive, reducing description tag spam, to be a good one, but this is not a good way to go about it.
Some mappers I'm familiar with from my area (NYC) like to use wordy descriptions. That doesn't equal advertisement.
I don't know what criteria you used to select these description tags for deletion, but I suspect it's just based on field length without any attempt to examine or communicate with the users in question.
I attempted to revert this changeset with changeset 81755045 but failed -- possibly there are too many changes for the JOSM reverter plugin to handle. All the more reason to use smaller changesets, both geographically and in number of edits.
I suppose I should have done a few hundred at a time since it covers such a large area.
For this changeset I loaded all nodes in question into JOSM and used the ToDo plugin to review each and every one. Any tag that read like a advertisement was removed. Any tag that I was unsure of was left alone. I would never perform a purely mechanical edit. Too much paperwork involved for those.
Thanks for the quick reply TravGW -- I'm happy to hear you did check these manually. But I'd appreciate if you attempted to contact the users in question first, at least those who seem legit. I know that sorting out who's a real mapper with a penchant for adspeak and who's just an SEO bot is hard work. I know because I've done a lot description tag cleanup myself. But it hurts the community to undo the work of real mappers without any communication.
At first glance I think the vast majority of the changes are for the better. But there are definitely some descriptions you've removed that were written in good faith. Some of these might benefit from a less spammy rewording. Maybe some of them really should be deleted, good faith notwithstanding! But if they were added by real people, an attempt at communicating with those people is better than a mass tag deletion.
I'm with jmapb, changesets like this should be split into at least one per state with possible exceptions for combining e.g. Delaware with Maryland and DC, Rhode Island with Connecticut and Massachusetts, Vermont with New Hampshire and possibly Maine.
having just reviewed 28 of these, the nature of these nodes as potential spam means a good number of them will be candidates for purging entirely after an in-depth review of all details and not just the altered description.
as such, knowing i'd probably be strung up for deleting known and obvious spam, i'd not be using any tool but clicking on all 1'045 notes listed below - and this time not in `lynx' where i work faster without the overhead of a graphical browser, since if an alleged business is nowhere near the given address, or if it looks like a residential neighbourhood for what appears to be a service rather than a storefront, then i feel the node has no place in osm. particularly if it's an advert for an app as one of the links i posted in the attempted revert.
so in my case i care more about the changeset volume, and not at all the area.
a multiple of 20 items is good as each page below (or better on the revert mini-changeset) shows obviously the place-of-warship spammage, there on the first page.
i gave rough estimates as to the amount of useless spam and the amount of legit descriptions that i could review, but i've the suspicion those numbers are not representative.
as i seem to caught a case of the corona-insomnia, i'm tempted to page through the 500+ pages listing below. in the hopes i pass out or die before reaching the end to pronounce judgment.
i need a life. or a hobby.
Id argue most of these are wrongly using the name tag as a descriptor also. Instead of being used for the actual name of the object.
Most of the names look okay but I question the need to repeat the full business name for a Bitcoin ATM.
Agreed, but then you just have name=Bitcoin Atm. How's that not descriptive?
Maybe dispense with name=* entirely and just use brand=* and whatever additional tag(s) to indicate it's for Bitcoin.
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