Changeset: 159601573
How many times do we have to go over this?
Closed by foreigner037
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Discussion
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Comment from rhhs
Not many times, if you care to discuss it before reverting my edits. The sign that a motorway starts is here https://maps.app.goo.gl/GhDR21UugYuTWQPN8 Before that sign, the road does not have motorway status, so I changed it to trunk road. See also this discussion https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/where-does-a-motorway-begin-and-end/117844
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Comment from foreigner037
Please look at the history of the ways. This is atleast the 8th time this was discussed in the last 2 years. Under the II-18 bridge there is a green milestone that marks km 0 of the motorway.
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Comment from rhhs
We should map the on-the-ground truth. It is a fact that the ways you edited do not have motorway legal status (you can ride a bike or a horse on it if you like), so it is not a motorway. That the kilometer marks start earlier than the motorway is confusing, but not a reason to consider it a motorway, I think. Same for the section at Правешки ханове: it is legally not a motorway (although you can't legally reach it on horseback). You mention that it was discussed (where?) but you are the only one reverting edits by others who think it should be tagged as a trunk or primary road.
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Comment from foreigner037
https://api.bg/bg/programa-za-remonti-na-republikanskite-putishcha-za-2022-godina.html
According to the road agency's GIS, the motorway starts under the bridge and ends in Varna with no breaks inbetween.
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Comment from foreigner037
The signs in these sections are also green (including kilometer markers), which are only to be used on motorways
https://lex.bg/laws/ldoc/-13618687
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FXkFa9HSGTq8CJg49
Near Praveshki Hanove one side was recently renovated and they put green signs again, but Street View hasn't been updated yet:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qEtPdK5JPtbAYKbp8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ncoFVaEu4MFKpXYPA
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to start a conflict, this is just not the first time that it is discussed.
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Comment from rhhs
OK. I put it up for discussion here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/motorway-status-of/122136 and hope that will solve the issue. Please add your opinion.
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