OpenStreetMap

Hello ManeraKai, importing data into OpenStreetMap requires prior discussion (see osm.wiki/Import/Guidelines). Have you discussed these imports with the Turkish community beforehand? Is the data source from which you scraped the information according to your message on Telegram even a legal data source for OSM?

I sent a message to Alikam showing him the script, he replied that he doesn't use JOSM, and likes to do things manually. However, even with semi-manual importing (using JOSM), it will take half a year to finish, importing 10-20 routes every single day. Even when finished, the routes will become deprecated. You can see how frequently they change their routes: https://iett.istanbul/announcement/Index. I acted on my own and made a big import. I wanted to delete previous deprecated routes that are based on PTv1 (though some are not), but others disagreed, and everything halted.

This imported data converts all of iett.istanbul's data to OSM. This import should not be done once, but every month or so. Removing all the past months' data, or changing nodes' positions. Everything imported is identified by IDs. This is possible.

I digested all of the PTv2 specifications. Perfected the script. I really worked on it. However, some people still called it horrible and that the previous data was of higher quality. People just don't like to change. You have a script, that is not a "script-kiddie" or something. You can either use it (by having a proper guideline), or revert everything back. I don't care anymore about what will happen to it.

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 152303022, 152302989 where the changeset comment is: remove Istanbul bus route import, see osm.org/changeset/148103706

Thank you for your response. The approach of "delete everything once a month and replace it" is not something we do in OSM, ever. If the third-party data really is so much better than our own data then users should simply load the third-party data in addition to ours, but we shouldn't degrade OSM to be a "delivery vehicle" for third-party data.

Also, it is still completely unclear to me if IETT even agrees to having their data copied into OpenStreetMap.

These are things that need to be discussed with the whole Turkish community before an import can proceed.

I have now removed the data that has been imported by you. Thank you for making your script available; the Turkish community can take this up if they're interested and after they have clarified the legal situation.

woodpeck, your revert has massively damaged the map of İstanbul. Yes, the original import by Manera included major issues, but we spent months improving on that data.

Now it's just a huge mess.

Please revert the revert before even more damage is done. You can't do a clean revert 3 months after such a major change.