changed access to private based on written proof from the landowner
Closed 8 months ago by Access Claims (komoot)
Please make this proof available for the Common OSM Community.
Is there any on the ground evidence on private access?
If not this might be not in line with country laws.
access=private means the owner can drive there with their motor car.
You might have wanted bicycle=no:
Indeed, please provide the proof as it is becoming more and more common of people ineligibly shutting access with fake "Private property" signs or wanting edits in OSM somehow. Information should be available in government's land registry.
@Wulf4096 access=private on any kind of highway means any kind of mobility is forbidden because it is a private propriety without any exception. Such tag should not be used in conjunction with other specific means of mobility with value "yes", that would conflict. I see this mistake too often and i know that recently someone in OSM's Wiki added such exception but it's wrong. The simple fact that OSM's Carto layer renders it grey, no matter what extra tag, is proof (and logical). Originally, it was meant without exception.
Also, it's a path, so 4 wheeled vehicles shouldn't be able physically to use such way.
About Düren, they should inform themselves on how something works before launching a dispute against a company such as Komoot, who actually is not responsible of the map.
komoot is not responsible for the map, but they are for sure for the tracks they offer ..
that's why they should not change the map but the stuff they offer within their business model ..
@tux67 you mean their tours. Let's not confuse with the highway=track. ;)
yes - they call it routes in the English version of their interface .. which collides of course as well with a meaning in the osm world .. but i think we are on the same page ;-)
In general, we try to receive enough information from the landowners that contact us about the situation on site. We ask for photos or documents as a proof before we make the changes. However, in this case, we indeed made the change too soon without enough proof and we're sorry for that. We will change the access back to how it was and reach out to the landowner again to provide us with more information.
@Sharcrash, the combination "access=private" + "foot=yes" (or "bicycle=yes") is perfectly fine and frequently used in Germany. Don't "fix" that please.
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