pnorman has commented on the following diary entries

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Nepal, OSM License, and the NGA 10 months ago

if they're modifying OSM data, rendering in into a produced work (e.g. a map) and publicly distributing produced work they have to make the modified database available*. Looking at the NGA atlases they appear to be layering OSM data with other data, not modifying OSM data. There are some minor attribution problems where they've mangled the OpenStreetMap name slightly and haven't provided license information or a link to it.

The same is probably the case with the Sochi maps, but I'm less sure without comparing geometries.

Using ODbL data within a company or government and not releasing anything publicly is allowed by the license. The share-alike obligations only come into play if something is released publicly.

  • Or other similar options under ODbL 4.6
Social Engineering the Mapbox Data Team 10 months ago

Any update on the source for the initial edit from Andgol? It obviously wasn't the link given, since that spells it differently.

February release delayed 12 months ago

It would also help if you were a user of Oracle's list of Root Certificate Authorities if you ask them when they intend to join and use the CA/Browser forum - the industry association for CAs and users, or use the Mozilla ca-certificates component, used by multiple vendors.

Japan, why are you so beautiful? about 1 year ago

When did you ship Eric off to North Korea? ;)


New Telenav Mapping Project: Dual Carriageways about 1 year ago

In OSM however, they are often mapped like this

Surely you mean in the unedited US? ;)

New Telenav Mapping Project: Dual Carriageways about 1 year ago

In OSM however, they are often mapped like this

Surely you mean in the unedited US? ;)

Voting is bullshit about 1 year ago

With the exception of a few foundation-related matters (board elections, some WGs, etc) we don't use voting in OSM. You don't need the authority of a vote to tag a way, and there's no requirement to follow what has been voted on.

The part of proposing a new tag that has value is explaining it to others.

Radios Censales De Argentina about 1 year ago

I'm not sure how this connects to OSM. All you've given is some screenshots of data without any text. Is this data in OSM?

The diversity-talk list about 1 year ago

Any idea how many subscribers there are to diversity-talk? It seems that only about 20-30 people are writing there, but is the circle that small, or are there many silent readers?

Although the list has always been mainly white anglo-americans, the recent moderator actions have caused some members to leave in disgust. This has left a list less diverse than others, an ironic state for a list named diversity-talk@

And I wonder if the list can really come out of that without simply dissapearing and reappearing in an other form…

We don't normally shut down lists, but given that the list was already quiet for months on end, the latest subscriber loss is going to destroy any relevance it had left.

It is disappointing, but I guess it's unlikely to have an impact. It's not as if the list was able to impose anything on other mappers outside of the list, and as I said above, it has no activity for months on end.

It will be as before - those who care about diversity will work on it, without regards to the list.

OSM issues apparently ? about 1 year ago

For the ability draw data on top of OSM data you can use umap.

A Proposal to improve the OSMF by Separating Out the Board from Officers about 1 year ago

Minor note, all directors are generally officers of the company, although others may also be officers.

It's largely a terminology matter.

Rendering Oddness for Runway Refs over 1 year ago

/ is the more standard way to indicate runway refs.

The trouble with the ODbL - summarized over 1 year ago

It does not cover hundreds of use of OSM data where the ODbL license is not an issue at all.

Including the data that OSM can use only because it is distributed under the ODbL license!

OpenStreetMap Carto v2.22.0 over 1 year ago

(When) is it live rendering on

It's already live but it can take a day or so for the servers to catch up with the backlog of re-rendering everything while serving everything live. Also, if you're having issues that don't seem to go away, completely clear the cache of your browser, view the map, wait a few minutes, then clear it again.

Importing 1 million New York City buildings and addresses over 1 year ago

Now that we've got it imported, when will NYC be releasing new data, and how will we handle updating it?

Complex Intersections, or Why We Should Get Rid Of exit_to over 1 year ago

I don't understand your questioning about the destination reference. Why not simply use the tag 'ref' on the link way if it's valide after the junction node

Frequently the link road does not itself have a reference, or at least not the same reference.

In one example locally, there is an exit signed as the exit to get to Highway 17, but Highway 17 is 4-5 km away through secondary roads and over a 1km bridge. This is a bit extreme, but a good example of how the destination refs may be quite distinct from the refs of the roads themselves.

Adding to the support for destination, both MapQuest Open and GraphHopper are consumers who support it.

OpenStreetMap and the Open Data Movement almost 2 years ago

Yesterday I had a short exchange of tweets with somebody that was surprised that was using google maps instead of OSM. Given that it is rather a convoluted subject, explaining why this in fact is not surprising was a bit difficult in 140 letters and is what prompted me to create this post.

I'd probably boil it down to they're using closed data instead of open data on their page. Many people assume open data is government data. Some even go so far as to say that any government data posted is open data, regardless of license. There seems to be a widening awareness that there are many non-government open data sources, including OSM, and that they come from a variety of sources, including companies.

Note: I gave a talk on how open data isn't just from governments.

GraphHopper 0.3 released: Fast Route Planner Beyond Two Dimensions almost 2 years ago

Is GraphHopper now supporting turn restriction relations?

Heatmap made easy with uMap almost 2 years ago

Great to see more heatmap options. Are you able to change the colours used to a more traditional heatmap option?

If you're using Leaflet.heat, does come with the same advantages and disadvantages of it?

I've looked at Leaflet.heat, but it falls down in the face of large datasets.

highway=bus_stop - Mappen für den Renderer almost 2 years ago

Also the assumption "1 node where PT users are waiting" is wrong. As I pointed out in a comment above there are over 100000 bus_stops mapped together with stop_position. Which means probably most of them are on the road.

Your numbers are wrong. 1142673/1295234 (88%) of highway=bus_stop are not part of any way. Of the 12% that are part of a way, a reasonable portion of those will be part of a footway, not part of the road. There's a pretty clear standard usage.

This is consistent with the long-standing method of the node being at the pole location, not the the middle of the road.

In short, highway=bus_stop is the standard way to indicate the pole location of a bus stop, and will likely continue to be for the foreseeable future.