OpenStreetMap

Now Live: Notes Posted By Scout Users

Posted by mvexel on 11 December 2014 in English.

Scout (USA) has been powered by OpenStreetMap data for about 5 months now. From day one, Scout users have been able to report navigation errors to us:

scout

We have since received thousands of reports and we have worked hard to review them and learn from the feedback we get from our users. We have manually submitted OSM notes where we could not resolve the issue ourselves, and we have fixed dozens of map issues based on the incoming reports. But we felt that we could do a better job closing the feedback loop between Scout users and the OSM community. We have now taken another big step towards this goal with direct OSM Notes creation from Scout US.

Some Scout Feedback will automatically become OSM Notes

As of last week, certain kinds of feedback we get from our Scout US community will be posted to OSM Notes automatically. We apply a smart filter to make sure that only reports that we think the OSM community can fix get posted. For example, ‘Destination Incorrect’ reports will not make it to OSM, because Scout does not use OSM data to locate addresses and businesses. And we will only forward reports where the Scout user entered a sensible looking comment.

What happens when a Scout user posts a note that passes our filter? Let me walk you through the process. The screenshots are from an actual note posted by a Scout user a few days ago.

Post to OSM

The report is translated into an OSM note and posted to OSM immediately. We take the location of the report as the note location, and add the report comments as the note text.

osm note

The note will also contain a link to another page that contains more information that may help you resolve the issue. We include the a part of the GPS trace of the user before and after they submitted the report (anonymized to remove any personally identifiable information of the user) and the OSM map data version used when the Scout driver submitted their report:

detail page

Confirmation Email

As soon as the report is posted to OSM, we send the Scout user an email telling them that their report is being reviewed by the OSM community. Of course, we also encourage them to fix the problem themselves and include a link to the note.

initial email

Note Resolved!

The Scout report system monitors the OSM notes it posted and kicks in as soon as they are closed. (In this case, I resolved the problem myself by adding a turn restriction and tagging a link road as such.) We will send another email to the Scout user telling them that their note has been closed.

resolved mail

What’s next?

Our objective with this new feedback loop is for the Scout and OpenStreetMap communities to connect. With Scout’s switch to OSM last April, all of a sudden we gained many more eyes on the OpenStreetMap data. This is an important step in feeding the intelligence we get out of that back to the OSM community. We plan to continue down this road and find more ways for the Scout community to help out in keeping OSM in great shape!

Discussion

Comment from Sanderd17 on 11 December 2014 at 17:38

Nice improvements.

What’s the usual data age in Scout? And in case it’s several days, would it be possible to mention the extraction date in the note?

Thanks a lot.

Comment from TomH on 11 December 2014 at 17:52

Please don’t use api.openstreetmap.org for links to web views… Yes I know it works at the moment but hopefully one day we will be able to separate the api and web views…

Comment from mvexel on 11 December 2014 at 18:43

SanderD: Currently it can be up to 4 weeks, but we’re working to refresh more often. TomH: I will see that that gets fixed.

Comment from lxbarth on 11 December 2014 at 19:08

This is awesome.

Comment from kerosin on 11 December 2014 at 21:45

Good job! Hopefully the filtering process is working properly, but I have no doubts about that!

Will this also affect your companions app Skobbler/Scout GPS Navigation & Maps? Or will there be a Scout Europe or even international version in the future? ;)

Comment from mvexel on 11 December 2014 at 21:57

Thanks kerosin! Well, to be honest, at first we are seeing some ‘unfixable’ things come through our filters, but we expected that to happen, and are monitoring the notes closely.

Scout GPS Navigation (formerly Skobbler) is not affected by this change yet. We are working on this! I will post diary entries whenever I have Scout-related news to report.

Comment from DaCor on 11 December 2014 at 23:37

Love it!

If reports /notes are what users are comfortable with in terms of improving the underlying data, more power to them :)

I look forward to seeing these notes popping up around the place

Comment from kucai on 12 December 2014 at 01:46

Sounds great. At least a little thinking is done before implementing that feature, unlike that other app that spew out OSM spam notes…. ;)

Comment from jaakkoh on 12 December 2014 at 23:30

Great development.

Have you thought of adding a possibility to create some (specified) bugs also outside of navigation?

I’ve used Scout now over the course of about two weeks and have had a few situations where I’ve spotted a missing road when just browsing / viewing the map and was intuitively trying to long-press that location on the map thinking I could create an OSM note on the issue. Surely there’s OsmAnd to rescue in such situations but I could imagine that such (perhaps limited types of) notes creation w/out navigation could make sense..

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