Hiking Trails & Mountain roads

Posted by mattmaxon on 16 February 2009 in English (English)

I have a great deal of data collected hiking the local mountain trails here in the Los Angeles California region

It is unclear to me what classification I should be using for these trails

highway=footway does not seem quite right to me

highway=path seems a better fit as many different users are allowed by administrators


This is the designation for the Pacific Crest National Scenic Trail (PCT) I have been using for my survey data

While sac_scale may be common in europe here we use the Yosemite Decimal System

for the PCT the YDS rating would be class 1

while some trails locally would have a YDS rating class 3 or class 4

Also there are many many roads in the mountains here within the "Angeles National Forest" This is a reserve administered by the United States Department of Agriculture, Forest Service (USDA Forest Service or FS) many of these roads locally are open to FS vehicles and have locked gates and are mostly unpaved

"Forest" is a bit of a misnomer in describing this area as mostly there is no forest, there are forested areas and mostly chaparral scrub land with inaccessible very steep terrain

I have been using the following designation


the "access" value doesn't really do it for me. FS users with the proper key can open the gate. The forest service calls this administrative access, I have an administrative pass and gate key for hiking trail maintenance

How do I go about getting access=administrative as a tag?

Comment from Paul Johnson on 16 February 2009 at 19:09

Permissive is about the closest you can get...though I'm not sure I really trust wandering around any part of the world that catches on fire just because someone breathed on it wrong like the Angeles National Forest.

I'm also wondering what significance the ANF has to people outside LA (other than the constant hope that one of those fires burns the entire city down)...seems odd I throw good tax money to keep those idiots alive by having ANF under federal instead of state jurisdiction.

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Comment from marscot on 16 February 2009 at 20:20

the roads in the mountains are they not best tagged as tracks highway=track and tracktype=grade 1 to grade 5 ? I am mapping using this tag a lot of forest tracks in Scotland which are only for the use of forest vehicles, but you can walk on them and use a bicyle on them and have locked gates. hope this helps

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Comment from mattmaxon on 16 February 2009 at 21:09


regarding the gates

Are you using highway=gate or barrier=gate ?

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Comment from marscot on 16 February 2009 at 21:16

No probs, I was using highway=gate but I have now started using the new tag Barrier=gate, my thinking is a highway can be a road or track but never a gate. :)


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