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About Tags: need info about correct tagging rules in several languages

Posted by liutas4x4 on 18 August 2011 in English (English)

Example: there is a forest (BTW, for unknown reason it has a red cross icon in Potlatch). I need to enter an origin of the trees in it in English, Lithiania, Russian and Hebrew. Is it correct to generate a tags, named "natural:en", "natural:lt", "natural:ru" and "natural:he"?

Comment from Wynndale on 18 August 2011 at 07:43

What do you mean by ‘origin of the trees’?

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Comment from liutas4x4 on 18 August 2011 at 08:45

Sorry for my English: I mean the name of genus, like "oak", "pine", "ficus", which is major in a forest I mark on a map.

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Comment from Pieren on 18 August 2011 at 09:51

Hmmm. Normally, we don't translate tags into the database itself. For instance, we tag a school as "amenity=school" and if some application want to translate itm it translates and displays "Schule" or "École" automaticaly. But we don't put a tag "amenity:de=Schule" into OSM database. I would expect the same for trees but I discover now that the wiki documentation about "trees" is not following the standard for species and genus. I've raised the question on the tagging mailing list:

http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Translating-tags-into-the-database-itself-td6698752.html

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Comment from Vincent de Phily on 18 August 2011 at 09:58

I do not think that natural=* should be translated anymore than, say, highway=*. "oak", "pine" etc are standardized values (as hinted by the fact that they are all-lowercase) so that we can have automated tools that work with them (for example displaying them differently on the rendered map, or building statistics).

If you want to display the name in your language, you're probably better off changing the tool that displays the map data rather than changing the map data itself.

I may be annoying to standardize on English... But for better or worse, that's the world we live in :p

PS: help.openstreetmap.org is better than the diary for such questions.

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Comment from Pieren on 18 August 2011 at 11:14

No, the help tool is not really appropriate here because the wiki documentation is translating species and genus tags for a while now. If we have to modify the wiki, we will need to discuss and look for a consensus. The mailing list is better for that.

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Comment from Circeus on 18 August 2011 at 15:41

Two keys have been introduced (though their acceptance is unclear), which can (presumably) use the :language extension forwhat you want todo: taxon and habitat.

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Comment from liutas4x4 on 19 August 2011 at 12:12

Nice. Thank you for all of you, who helped.
Next time I will ask @ forum instead.

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