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London Missing Maps Mapathon December

Posted by Tallguy on 16 December 2014 in English (English)

Ho, Ho, Ho

Antlers, what a good idea. If you want to break the ice & chat with a bunch of nice people, try wearing antlers. I hope I haven't given too many people my cold - honestly, it's just been a little nuisance until yesterday when I nearly lost my voice.

I'm certain that the Missing Maps Team deserve a brilliant Christmas for all the hard work they put in making these events run so smoothly - It's a pleasure to work with you guys & Thank You. I'm including all the HOT people who turned up to help - brilliant, you're advice (and waiter service delivering mince pies) is invaluable.

Great progress folks - I can't wait to see the full stats when you've all finished any squares you were working on, but 34% done during the course of one evening, and many more squares started & just needing a little more work - that's impressive!

Impressive stats folks

I'd like to see all of you at future mapathons, it's always amazing how quickly people progress - if you'd like a little light reading, have a read of LearnOSM section for Remote, Armchair or Mapathon mappers which aims to helping you with everything you will need to map remotely for these tasks. Personally I find it displays quite well on my phone.

LearnOSM is something I've become deeply involved in now - it's the 'HowTo' for many things that the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team - HOT promote, so it includes many sections on how to map, how to use JOSM & iD, and for NGO's how to extract & use the data that OSM produces. It's worth spending time delving around in there - there's so much information that no index is ever going to do it justice - you just need to spend a little time delving around.

A little help please.

  • It would be really great if you could finish the squares you started on - it's much easier for you because you know what you did, and what's still to be done.
  • If any of you have got photo's of buildings, huts, roads & any of the other structures that we are mapping in Africa, and you can release them to HOT with no copyright restrictions so I can add them into LearnOSM it would be very helpful - a picture says a thousand words.
  • Translation of LearnOSM - always welcome if you fancy having a go. Links are off of the site (click on the pencil). It's amazing how many people all over the world want to help, and if we can give them the information in a language they can understand it makes a big difference.

Have a Happy Christmas & a Terrific New Year,

and I hope to see you all again in the future at another event.

Nick - the Tallguy with antlers, bald head & a cold!

Location: Am Timan - Abu Deia - Mongo National Road, Am Timan, Salamat Region, Chad

Missing Maps London Mapathon 30/09/2014 Skills Matter

Posted by Tallguy on 2 October 2014 in English (English)

What an evening!

60+ willing volunteers with laptops in a room (Big thanks to Skills Matter) with a team of helpers & great things happened. We talked, they worked & occasionaly we answered questions or helped in some other way. Some of our team were elsewhere in the world giving feedback to our new mappers, and some more were learning & helping using web links. There are quite a few photographs on Facebook - search for Missing Maps Project.

Progress?

Well, I've never seen anything so good so quickly. Our mappers coped with the squares magnificently, checking what had already been done, adding missing details, and marking the squares as complete. Validators checked the squares, corrected any slight errors, gave feedback (messaging system in the TM works extremely well for this) & marked the squares as validated - we do need more validators though - might have to see if we can train some of our more regular volunteers in this.

Our Team

You were terrific. They wouldn't have done it without you - the whole package is needed & I don't know the names to thank everyone. There will be many unsung hero's and you should have a warm glow inside from knowing that you helped to make it work. Advertising, contacts, paperwork, ordering pizzas, standing at the door, making the technical bits work, admin - more admin. There's a lot of work needed, and I for one am grateful that you helped to make it happen, On the night I was really pleased to see many helpers giving advice - Dan, Harry, Nataly, Ralph, Richard, to name just some who willingly gave their time & expertise.

& Now

Validating / Feedback - to come

I'll try to make sure that everyone who was at the session gets feedback on at least one of the squares they compete - it may take me a while though. Don't wait for the feedback, keep mapping & keep learning. Mistakes happen, when you find out you've been making one, see if you can go back over the squares you've already completed & correct your previous work. If the square has been validated, the validator has probably already corrected any small errors. Personally I spend part of my time researching & part of my time mapping - have a read through http://learnosm.org/en/ or any of the links from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page

I'd recommend that you sign up for HOT emails - this link for a howto: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

If IRC is your thing then http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Irc (obviously I'd recommend the HOT group!)

More to come

Mapping - there is plenty of scope - the Task Manager contains many worthwhile tasks / projects. We trained mainly in iD, but there are other map editing programmes and future mapathons will cover options. If this was your first mapathon you only saw the tip of the ice berg - there are other HOT volunteers adding names to villages & towns (have to be careful of the source, so there are special instructions on this), mappers who validate, and volunteers who write software - boredom is not an option!

Thanks for reading, and I hope to see more of you with HOT and the Missing Maps Project - let's get it mapped before the disaster happens!

Missing Maps Project mapathon - 26th August at British Red Cross building

Posted by Tallguy on 28 August 2014 in English (English)

Hi,

If you followed a link in a message to get to this diary entry, you're probably one of the people who went to the event. I'm the old, tall, bald & bearded one who stood at the front & talked for part of the time.

The event was laid on by a large team of people all hoping that we could give new mappers the information they need to get started mapping for HOT, from http://tasks.hotosm.org/ , but I think we're all aware that with such a big group of people 'zero to hero' is unlikely in the 2 hours that were available. We've given you a start & we're planning to help you keep going, but we do need you to try! It's a simple process but sometimes there are little hiccups with the software that can make it seem difficult, just keep trying & you'll get there. By the way, I still make mistakes - it's a human thing, just don't let it stop you & try to learn from them.

I'd recommend that you sign up for HOT emails - this link for a howto: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

If IRC is your thing then http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Irc (obviously I'd recommend the HOT group!)

There are quite a few places to get more help from (The tasking manager has recently been upgraded & many of the screenshots are out of date - we're working on updating the guides, but the principles are the same). http://learnosm.org/en/ has several different modules & it's worth reading them. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager contains more information and links.

I'll be validating shortly, and I always try to leave feedback on the squares I validate – I'm intending to start on http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/606 (#606 - Central African Republic. Refugees in Cameroon, Garoua-Boulaï - Meidougou ), and then move on to http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/624 (#624 - Ebola Outbreak, Eastern counties, Liberia, road network ) . I have other bits & pieces to do as well, so please bear with me if it takes a long time before your squares are validated.

There will be other Missing Maps Project events, and I hope you can come to another. We have concentrated on the information for new mappers, and kept things simple so far, but there is plenty of scope for variety, with faster methods of editing, importing the names of objects after surveys 'in the field' by local people, and perhaps you would like to try validating?

Feedback to us / me. What can we do to improve? We need to know please.

Thanks for reading, and I hope to validate some of your squares soon.

Nick (Tallguy)

Missing Maps Project mapathon - evening of 29th July

Posted by Tallguy on 30 July 2014 in English (English)

Hi,

This is the text from a message being sent to all the attendees of a mapathon held in the MSF offices in London - Hopefully it will be of help to someone.

"Hi, and thank you for helping to make the 'Missing Maps' session such a success. I'm the old, tall, bald & bearded one who stood at the front & talked for part of the time.

All of the people who helped the evening work are hoping that you will persevere & do some mapping from http://tasks.hotosm.org/ , but I think we're all aware that with such a big group of people 'zero to hero' is unlikely. We've given you a start & we're planning to help you keep going, but we do need you to try! I meant what I said about it being a simple process, but sometimes there are little hiccups with the software that can make it seem difficult, just keep trying & you'll get there. By the way, I still make mistakes - it's a human thing, just don't let it stop you & try to learn from them.

Personally I'd like to try to organize a regular mapping session at which we could go along, do some mapping, learn a bit from each other, and drink coffee - the coffee's optional. Learning from each other is a lot more fun than reading instructions on a web site. Would you be interested?

I'd recommend that you sign up for HOT emails - this link for a howto: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

If IRC is your thing then http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Irc (obviously I'd recommend the HOT group!)

There are quite a few places to get more help from (The tasking manager has recently been upgraded & many of the screenshots are out of date - we're working on updating the guides, but the principles are the same). http://learnosm.org/en/ has several different modules & if you're new to mapping it's worth reading;

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager should be updated during the course of the day (keep checking for updates please) - there are also links from it to other guides to mapping.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page Loads of links - you can spend your life reading & never get any mapping actually done!

https://help.openstreetmap.org/ ..... think the title is self explanatory.

When you mark a square as 'finished', it should be validated by another mapper. That mapper will leave feedback which you can use to improve your future mapping. I'm one of the people that does validating, and my aim is to get you to map more squares, but better! Check http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager for how to get that feedback.

Feedback to us / me. What can we do to improve? We need to know please.

Thanks for reading, and I hope to validate some of your squares soon.

Nick (Tallguy)"

Armchair mapper?

Posted by Tallguy on 20 June 2013 in English (English)

Foot survey today

Obtained a few address numbers in Swanley, Kent, UK, using KeyPadMapper3. I've uploaded the address nodes to OSM, but deliberately left them as nodes at the moment.

My profile

I've spent a few minutes updating my profile. I like to survey areas, and am interested in working with other mappers - if you are interested in working with me, have a read of my profile page & see if there is something of interest. You don't have to be anywhere near Swanley!

Regards

Nick (Tallguy)

ncn1

Posted by Tallguy on 4 April 2008 in English (English)

Hoping to work further on ncn1 in Dartford area later this week. Think I can fill in some of the missing bits, but need the time to cycle there.

Borough Green

Posted by Tallguy on 4 April 2008 in English (English)

Have added a few roads from memory, will be doing more work on this area - Daphne knows area well & will get her to carry a GPS. Does seem to be a poor satellite signal there, so not all tracks are as accurate as would like. Am waiting on new GPS to come into stock - perhaps when this arrives will improve the tracks.

Durham, Maidstone, Dartford & Swanley review

Posted by Tallguy on 4 April 2008 in English (English)

Had a quick (long actually!) look through the mapping done so far in Durham, Maidstone, Dartford & Swanley.
Think I've now corrected all the errors I made previously;
Pilgrims Way, have made a residential road again,
Birchwood Rd - now a road again.
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Other bits look okay now - if anyone reads & notices something wrong, let me know or i'll keep making the same mistake!

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