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Panoramic views aka "Street View" on OSM?

Posted by RoadLessTraveled on 9 April 2014 in English (English)

Hi there,

I'm interested in helping OSM to start towards some kind of street view like service, which seems eminantly doable now that Androids standard camera app, allows for super easy taking of panoramic, full spherical style images.

Just having some trouble figuring out the most effective place to upload these?

  • Theres opentrailmap.org, but then they only seem to want off road paths, parks etc.
  • There's openlinkmap, but they only seem to be looking at adding this functionality at some time and even then they don't seem to have anywhere to upload the images
  • there's openstreetview.org which looks promising, but as though it's been dead for years. Really this is the kind of thing I'm looking for, but is there anything more active?
  • Then there seems to be some discussion about adding to OSM directly with the tags image=File:example.jpg and image:panorama=yes where example.jpg is your file uploaded to wikimediacommons. This looks like the most logical and promising, but will anywhere actually display these? the image tag is also marked as controversial, so will it stick around?

So where would you think to add street level, "Street View" style images into OSM so they're most likely to be useful?

How do you map house numbers efficiently?

Posted by RoadLessTraveled on 5 April 2014 in English (English)

I've been trying to find an efficient method for adding street numbers, but so far every workflow I've found has been rather horrific.

I like vespucci, but it's a lot of clicks to create each node and type in each number. I thought I'd found a possible solution when I came across keypad mapper 3 for Android. Trouble is, for something designed specifically for this purpose, the interface is still pretty unwieldy.

I put quite a bit of time, thought and effort into mocking up a better user interface and posted it here almost a month ago to no response at all: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Keypad-Mapper_3#Faster_GUI_Mockup_for_Most_Common_Use_Cases

Worse than that, Keypad Mapper 3 positions the nodes all over the place. On the street it's a neat , regular 10 meters or so between each house and each number goes up by 2. In the OSM file it makes, Often the node for one house might be 50 meters away from each other or more. When importing into JOSM sometimes it's hard to even tell which street the node is supposed to be on!

The GPS on my Nexus 5 phone's other apps, seem to function with good accuracy.

So does anyone here map street numbers regularly and have a decent workflow for this?

Thanks!

RLT

Am I the Only One...

Posted by RoadLessTraveled on 16 March 2014 in English (English)

Who's developed an automatic habit, of trying to remember any local mailbox / public phone / store or new sign spotted while driving to add to OSM later? This thing is addictive!

The nice thing is, that it stops you from just becoming blasé and not noticing the local area you live in. I find myself paying more attention and seeing more of where I live than I did when I first moved here.

Now, it's time to go and add those public phones / mail boxes I memorized today...

Quickly Mapping Stores & Street Numbers w Android - Quick Review of the Tools

Posted by RoadLessTraveled on 13 March 2014 in English (English)

Hey all,

Reasonably long time member, but only pretty recently getting into any real mapping. So after trying Google maps Android app lately, I was struck by how mind alteringly useful it is being able to look up local businesses and have their website, opening hours and phone number available, so I've been trying to find a workflow for quickly getting this same info into OSM wherever I go.

For adding stores, the OSM editing plugin does a great job with an interface that lets you search for appropriate tags, and often to not even need to know what tag to use because they have a field there. The main problem is that while it's great for adding a new store, that there doesn't seem to be any way to edit it, so if you make even a single mistake... you'll need to find another way to fix it.

That let me to Vespucci. The current version in Fdroid crashes when trying to bring up the edit tags dialoge. An email to the dev revealed that they basically grabbed a random code snapshot, compiled it and threw it in. Getting the actual latest release fixed this nicely. Vespucci is fabulous for being able to add any tag or detail you want. It also has a nice, if sometimes quirky set of presets where if you choose, say "restaurant" it will add all the appropriate tags for a restaurant for you to fill out. Currently it's my favorite all 'round tool, although with great power, often comes not being quite so quick for little edits, such as just adding a node with a street number. It still feels a bit clunky in much the same way that potlatch felt, compared to iD, but I really was impressed with how much I could do with a mobile interface though, including modifying relations, creating areas and more.

Wanting to add street numbers quickly (while walking the dog down the street) led me to Key Mapper 3. Nice and fast interface that does one thing and does it (pretty) well. Just type a street number and hit a left / right / forward arrow to say where that house is in relation to you. I do wish it had a "+1", "+2", "-1","-2" buttons as typing in the same first 2 digits for every 4 digit house number gets old fast. That's a pretty small niggle though.

What's a huge niggle (if there can be such a thing) is that once you have recorded the data, there's no quick way to add it to osm. You have to email it to yourself, and then figure out how to import multiple files (a gpx and a gsm for each session) into another application, which you then need to figure out how to recreate the nodes it created for upload into osm. Eventually I figured out it was pretty easy in JOSM, but I really would have liked to not have to mess around with a desktop app after getting home. I really want something that lets me just quickly add numbers while I'm out and be done with it.

Anyway, I'm having fun, and getting a lot of stores added in with addresses (inc the whole shopping mall below), phone numbers, websites and opening hours. I'm pretty poud of that as a new user. Now if I can just find a comprehensive phone solution for quickly adding street numbers I'll be a happy mapper!

RLT

PS Does anyone know how to find who's making the most recent changes in your area? I'd love to meet some other local OSM'ers!

Location: Clarkson, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
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