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cycle.travel now has OSM-powered bike routing for Western Europe 20 days ago

Hi Ocivelo - cycle.travel does already take elevation into account, but I'll take a look at that example and see if the hill penalty could be revised!

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SotM 2014 Argentina logo 26 days ago

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Missing Cardrona Trails about 1 month ago

They haven't been deleted. It's just that the map now longer shows things that have a name but not a 'class' (i.e. what they actually are), and you only gave these trails a name - you didn't actually say that they are trails!

If you add tags such as 'highway=footway' or 'highway=track', then they'll show up on the map again.

Changing the real world to map the renderer.... about 1 month ago

I always wondered why the most un-NCN-like A5132 was signposted as a route!

cycle.travel now has OSM-powered bike routing for Western Europe 2 months ago

That's odd - worksforme. What browser are you using?

To all recklessly editing newbies 3 months ago

To all old hands:

WHY MAKE UNNECESSARILY COMPLICATED TAG PROPOSALS INVOLVING 839 LEVELS OF NESTED RELATIONS THAT NEWBIES CAN'T UNDERSTAND

cycle.travel now has OSM-powered bike routing for Western Europe 3 months ago

Feedback is always good - thanks! :)

There's a key at the top right (it says 'Key'), though I suspect it might not look right in Opera 12. There are definitely tooltip hints on the orange buttons (it's in the 'title' attribute) - maybe an Opera thing again?

The coffee shop thing is because it shows coffee shops in rural areas at low zoom levels, but not in built-up areas... and the built-up area polygon for Hambury doesn't include the Hafencity. Not sure what to do about that.

Red dots and cut-off labels are Mapnik placement things. The red dots should be there but they're getting squeezed out by the other labels/symbols. I think you have to have a degree in advanced wizardry to understand Mapnik placement. It's a bit like the Schleswig-Holstein Question but in XML.

Showing non-cycle features at small scales is one of the challenges of bike maps - like it or not, it's how a lot of people understand their way around (they're big landscape features even if you can't cycle along them).

It generally prefers small roads to major roads but, that said, taking you via Große Reichenstraße is a bit of an extreme diversion. Will investigate. The generalisation is an OSRM thing though there may be ways round it.

Kilometres will be along soon, but until then you can set a per-user preference by creating an account (that's also how you share and save routes).

I feel nostalgic 3 months ago

Screenshots of the early 'style' (which is possibly overstating it) are difficult to find. The only one I've unearthed so far is http://vagueterrain.net/journal/13/dreher/dreher-3.png , but it's very low resolution.

But, in short, the earliest style that I remember was a Landsat background, with thickish white lines for each way, and I think with some black casing. That's it. Assuming you can get the Landsat background, it shouldn't take more than five minutes to knock up in Maperitive/TileMill/whatever.

White House 3 months ago

The capital of France is Paris.

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Mapnik don't render railwail=abandoned tag ? 4 months ago

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/542

Android OSM apps 4 months ago

Have you tried an iPhone?

runs away very very fast indeed

My one problem with OpenStreetMap 4 months ago

I'm not sure where you get the impression that the majority of OSM developers are working for companies. If it's true (which I doubt) it's only on a technicality - several are independent OSM consultants (i.e. they own their own companies), others are employed on OSM-related business but contribute code to OSM in their spare time, and so on. Very few people are paid to contribute code to the core osm.org site.

Nor am I sure why you think that OSMF has a "hierarchy" or a "development team". It doesn't. Generally the development of the site has very little to do with OSMF; the Foundation's main function is to hold ownership of certain assets, e.g. servers, domain names etc.

As a matter of fact, routing ("directions") is already being worked on and will be going live shortly: see http://jsrouting.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and https://github.com/systemed/openstreetmap-website/tree/routing .

I'd encourage you to talk to developers and find out how things work at present before making radical suggestions as to how things should change. IRC is a good place to do this.

bicycle traffic 4 months ago

It's great to have new cycle mappers on board but -

Wow. No. Please don't do that.

Making up new values such as "compulsory" and "facultative" will mean that routing software and renderers have no idea how to treat your data.

In addition, tag values should generally be commonly-understood British English where possible, and "facultative" certainly isn't that.

Please use the tagging@ mailing list to discuss your ideas for tagging before arbitrarily changing data. Please also revert your changes. Thanks.

Mapping Baker St TONIGHT, and other summer events 5 months ago

Surely Wikimania should be considered a fringe event of the much more important OSM 10th Birthday party!

@OsmThis: Twitter to OSM 5 months ago

Brilliant!

highway=bus_stop - Mappen für den Renderer 6 months ago

Pretty much any kind of relation is not easily approachable for a newcomer.

If that's the case, then that's a UI issue in the editors, and eminently fixable. The correct approach is to improve the editors.

Friendly advice: your consistent shouting, boldcase and headline font in all this is seriously detracting from the points of your message, especially when you're yelling at people who have more OSM experience than you do. Please calm down a little.

highway=bus_stop - Mappen für den Renderer 6 months ago

The route relation which gets the tag is what matters. Which is also my main argument why this is something that newcomers won't be able to easily map.

There is no reason why routes should be difficult to map.

Put yourself in the shoes of a newcomer. All the roads in their town are mapped. The corner shop is mapped. The church is mapped. The pubs are mapped. But the bus routes aren't and the bus stop isn't.

Why should we say "sorry, churches are easy to map, but bus routes aren't"? What sort of message is that to send out?

It is incumbent on people "designing" tagging schemes to make them approachable for the newcomer. If the scheme fails that test, it isn't fit for purpose. Your insistence that the public_transport tagging isn't suitable for newcomers is leading me to think it should be dropped entirely and replaced with something saner.