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Russia Data Questions

Posted by MapMakinMeyers on 11 April 2013 in English (English)

I am looking for people who know about Russia, location data for Russia, and anything gis Russia. I am trying to compile geospatial data for Russia and am finding to be very difficult! OSM has good data in certain locations and not so good in others. Some of the OSM data lines up with GNS data which is good and bad. I have tried to reach out to numerous agencies across Russia on a local, regional, and Federal level; I know none of my questions will go anywhere!? I have looked here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Russia and do not really see anything that can assist me. I have also tried http://gis-lab.info/ but they also can only provide limited help. I know Russian mappers are out there! Could someone who knows a fair amount of information about location information for Russia please message me and I will ask more specific questions. Any help is much appreciated!

Comment from Zverik on 11 April 2013 at 18:59

But what are the questions? :) There are a lot of russian mappers in OSM, they talk in a forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=21

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Comment from MapMakinMeyers on 11 April 2013 at 19:25

Zverik, I am looking for official sources of locational data. I have found what I believe to be valuable data here: KLADR (http://www.gnivc.ru/inf_provision/class ... nce/kladr/ ) and FIAS (http://fias.nalog.ru/Public/DownloadPage.aspx ) but there isn't any latitude/ longitude. I am looking for something like that - whether it is point, polygon data or csv data with latitude/ longitude, etc. Or just any knowledge of who to contact or knowledge of such data. Could you assist!?

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Comment from aseerel4c26 on 11 April 2013 at 20:03

I suggest to just ask the questions here. Also you may ask in Russian. ;-) A note: please don't import external data sources to OpenStreetMap unless it is broadly discussed. I don't know what you are planning.

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Comment from MapMakinMeyers on 11 April 2013 at 20:09

aseerel4c26 - my questions are above. Could you assist?

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Comment from Zverik on 11 April 2013 at 20:19

There is such thing, but it's undeveloped, missing a lot of data and published as a set of pdf files. Discussed here: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=6151 Liosha parses it into csv files, which he published in the same forum topic. The latest file is http://data.gis-lab.ru/mp/gkgn_v8.zip (a month old).

The authority that publishes geodata is Rosreestr, and in recent months it is considering licensing terms for their data, and I hope they're considering opening some of it. We (osm and gis-lab) have been talking to them for a long time, but governmental organizations in Russia are very hard to work with: they cannot make any hard decisions.

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Comment from Zverik on 11 April 2013 at 20:21

As for GKGN license, I think it's PD, but not too sure. The purpose of this set is to establish a common names for geographic features, so I guess it is not only open, but strongly recommended for using.

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Comment from MapMakinMeyers on 11 April 2013 at 20:34

Zverik, Thank you for the information. I will have to research the link and data you sent above. I have been contacting people all day and inofrmaion is starting to come back so I have to follow up on every lead! I did reach out to who I think is the head person at Yandex Geo, but in all honesty I have no clue (I am on facebook but not VK/ VKontakte) - and they do not seem to be on facebook. Any information I receive I plan on sharing with the larger OSM/ gis-lab community. I hope I find what I am looking for soon!

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Comment from MapMakinMeyers on 14 April 2013 at 15:47

Zverik, I have a few questions with regard to the data you told me to look at (gkgn_v8.zip). The data isn't for the entire nation is it? When extracting the files there are two for every admin 1. For example there is a 01_F_201(Республика Адыгея).gpx and a 01_F_202_нп (Республика Адыгея).gpx do you know what the difference is between these for all of the files? I do not know what a "нп" represents? I reached out to liosha through a message and on the forum, but have not heard anything back as of yet. Are the pdf's parsed from data located here: https://rosreestr.ru/wps/portal/ccib_data_catalog_place_names?param_infoblock_document_path=infoblock-root/cc_ib_data_catalog_place_names/index.htm

Thanks!

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