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Building with two different names. How to solve

Posted by FraMauro on 2 October 2012 in English (English)

I have a problem with two conflicting names for the same object.

This object is a building: Palazzo Pamphilji (id = 25481440).

The building was built for a noble family and so it is known as the palace of that family from the foundation. So Palazzo Pamphilji (of course this means Pamphilji Palace). If you come to Rome for tourism you will find it under this name in your touristic guide. This is true even if this touristic guide is not written in italian, of course; just look at wikipedia

The problem: the building hosts the Brasilian Embassy. The Embassy owns the whole palace, so the whole palace "is" the Brasilian Embassy. The name of the Embassy is, of course, more or less "Brasilian Embassy" in various languages. For example the palace has name:pt = Embaixada do Brasil. At the same time I could write name:pt = Palazzo Pamphilj (again, according to wikipedia).

I found cited the same problem in this diary post on the University of Cambridge of davidearl: " It is very tempting to say this is the "Department of Psychology" rather than the "Sir William Hardy Building", but the latter is the correct name".

I just suppose that the problem is less important: I hope that most people that have to go at the Department of Psychology will know that they have to go to the Sir William Hardy Building. I find quite difficult that a portuguese that have to look for his/her embassy will be interested in roman history... (clearly it is quite easy to find the Navona square, but this is not the point....)

Could anyone provide me any linking to the "right" tag description? Or, if no shared tagging convention exixts, any suggestion?

Thank you in advance

Location: Parione, Municipio Roma I, Rome, Lazio, Italy

Comment from TomH on 2 October 2012 at 20:01

I'd suggest something like:

  • name = Embassy of Brazil
  • addr:housename = Palazzo Pamphilji

which is certainly what I've done before (eg http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/123243789) though this is a little different as both names are actually in common use.

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Comment from EdLoach on 2 October 2012 at 20:24

I was going to make a similar suggestion to TomH but with the two names the other way around (assuming you'd also have tourism=attraction on there, so the name would be the name of the attraction).

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Comment from Vincent de Phily on 3 October 2012 at 08:45

Another possibility is to tag the building with "Palazzo Pamphilji", and to add a node inside it for the embassy amenity.

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Comment from z-dude on 3 October 2012 at 11:24

the names page in the documentation show how to label things with international names, local names, and official names.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Name

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Comment from pieleric on 3 October 2012 at 12:14

I'd follow Vincent advice. The name of the building is the "Palazzo Pamphilji", which will always be this even if the owner changes (and maybe also a tag tourism=attraction as EdLoach suggested). Then you add a POI inside the building with the embassy amenity. If the Brazilian embassy decides to move, it'll be just a matter of moving the POI.

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Comment from marscot on 5 October 2012 at 21:40

I have came across this a few time, also buildings in one street with the entrance from another street, I would tag the building as the Palazzo Pamphilji and the embassy as an Address node in this building, as an entrance. access=public entrance=door addr:housename=Brazillian Embassy this can even be in the buildings outline to show exactly where their door is. even can add wheelchair=yes/ or no

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