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In the last week or so, I've finished collecting all the street names for the Melbourne suburbs of Avondale Heights & Keilor East. There are 3 streets which don't have street signs, looks like I'll have to contact the council.

As described in my last post (First update on mapping OpenStreetMap (long overdue)), I had already collected ~1/2 the street names by riding down main roads and collecting all the street names that I pass by. Then I used the NoName layer to plan a "snake route" which takes me past the ends of all the remaining streets.

BTW, looks like I've previously completed all the missing street names from a few other suburbs: Niddrie, West Essendon & Aberfeldie.
My plan for OSM contribution in the immediate future is to complete the street names of suburbs (I've traced) one by one, before moving onto more tracing or other work. Might need to get a GPS for "other work".

Location: Keilor East, Melbourne, City of Moonee Valley, Victoria, 3033, Australia

First update on mapping OpenStreetMap (long overdue)

Posted by BlueMM on 13 October 2008 in English. Last updated on 15 October 2008.

Australia » Victoria » Melbourne
I signed up for OpenStreetMap about a year ago, and there were plenty of warnings that it's very addictive, but little did I know!!!
I do mapping in spits & spurts (like a lot of other people I'd imagine).
Progress

Turns out I have done a fair bit since I signed up:
Melbourne contributors
Looks like I'm the biggest contributor in greater Melbourne, scary stuff.

I've traced streets, added a lot of names and added some POI's like parks, foot/bike paths, pubs, schools etc.

Rough order of Suburbs I've done:

  • Essendon
  • Moonee Ponds
  • Aberfeldie
  • Strathmore
  • Ascot Vale
  • Flemington
  • Travancore
  • Kensington
  • West Melbourne (industrial area)
  • Strathmore Heights
  • Gowanbrae
  • Airport West
  • Keilor East
  • Avondale Heights
  • Maribyrnong
  • Maidstone
  • West Footscray
  • Footscray
  • Braybrook
  • North Sunshine
  • Sunshine
  • Keilor Park
  • Tullamarine

Since I don't have a GPS, I trace from Yahoo! imagery and fill in as many details as possible.

My usual steps:

  1. Trace streets, parks, foot/bike paths from Yahoo! imagery
    • Add as many tags as is obvious, leave alone if in doubt
      • eg. highway=residential, source=yahoo

  2. Ride along "main" roads to pick up all the side street names, scribbling on my Palm T3 Notepad application (exports to PNG)
    • Tag as name=blah, source:name=survey
    • Later on use Maplint or NoName layers to spot missing street names
      • Plan another ride that swings past all remaining streets

  3. Walk or ride down *every* street, after printing off a Mapnik layer map of the area
    • Note down:
      • All street names/references/lanes/bike lanes/speed limits
      • Schools, park, shopping centre names and shapes (to refine the rough tracing from Yahoo!
    • This takes a long time, and I've only done a little bit so far, but it does make the area almost 100% complete

Wishlist

  1. Either Yahoo! updates their Melbourne satellite photo's (~5 years old) and provide higher zoom levels (currently level 16) or Google provides their photo's to OSM

  2. Potlatch is my editor of choice, and it has improved a lot since I started using it
    • Zoom further in by scaling the Yahoo! tiles when hitting the highest zoom Y! provides
      • Potlatch used to do this, which made it much faster to trace, but a Flash bug that occurs when the auto-maximise feature was added means this had to be turned off :(
    • More tag "autocomplete" entries (especially source:name=survey/photo etc.)
    • When crossing a way with another (either as a T-intersection or cross), I think the snapping feature of Potlatch means the created node is not where the two ways mathematically cross, but the nearest snapped point
      • So the angles of ways change a bit, needing zooming in to fine tune
        • But snapping is very obvious at z18, which becomes dodgy when ways are close to (but not) orthogonal
      • I usually layout a grid of streets with a little overlap, then come through and join all crossing ways, crop T-intersections overhang and fine tune

  3. Get a GPS and:
    • Circumnavigate local parks etc. which are hard to see the boundry from Yahoo! imagery because of trees
    • Enter POI points like postboxes, speedhumps, changes of speedlimits
    • Take photos as I go of all the street signs, amenity names etc. which, with a GPS, can be geotagged (and upgrade name's to name:source=photo)

Ownership

I've noticed that there is a fair amount of pride/possessiveness around the contribution that OSM users have made, and I'm no different.

I get annoyed when other users come through and add inappropriate tags (not what was on the ground, "for the renderer", not "best-practise" etc.), move carefully smoothed ways around/offset. I guess the "pride" of one's contribution is a double edged sword.

Good tools for letting me know when someone has editing "my areas" would be fantastic, and I've just signed up for Itoworld's osmmapper (RSS feeds of changes to specific areas). But I think it's hard to communicate what has changed, how do you convey changes in a concise/meaningful way?

  • eg. Mary St is now oneway & nodes moved; Frank Rd deleted; Railway Hotel pub added+tagged opening hours; etc.

(original crossposted at http://bluemm.blogspot.com/2008/10/first-update-on-mapping-openstreetmap.html)

Location: Essendon, Melbourne, City of Moonee Valley, Victoria, 3040, Australia

JOSM Yahoo tracing

Posted by BlueMM on 17 April 2008 in English.

I've been tracing Yahoo! imagery in Potlatch for a while now, and have really gotten the hang of Potlatch. I'd like to get into JOSM, but find the interface has a bit of a learning curve (just like Potlatch). It might be my connection, but I find I have to keep pressing the "data wasn't updated" warning icon in Potlatch, and it gets very annoying. I don't have a GPS yet, so it's tracing all the way.

I have successfully setup JOSM and downloaded an area. Also worked out how to get Yahoo! imagery through Firefox.
The problem is, I can't seem to get JOSM to remember the background Y! image between sessions. This is annoying since I do little bits at a time, and would prefer to come back and continue editing without needed to download the Y! images again...