Changeset: 6121088
en masse MLI building import
Closed by sammuell
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Discussion
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Comment from Mateusz Konieczny
"All rights reserved."? See for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/82349060/history
So it is import done in violation of OSM license and should be reverted, right?
Have you done other edits like this?
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Comment from sammuell
Amazingly, including that nonsensical attribution was a term of the license at the time. The MLA imports were discussed on the talk-ca mailing list, and there were no concerns.
The current license (https://mli2.gov.mb.ca/app/register/app/index.php) suggests the attribution text may not be necessary since OSM would be a derivative product, so the attribution tag could probably be removed
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Comment from Mateusz Konieczny
> The current license (https://mli2.gov.mb.ca/app/register/app/index.php) suggests the attribution text may not be necessary since OSM would be a derivative product, so the attribution tag could probably be removed
Are you sure that it is exactly the same dataset?
> The MLA imports were discussed on the talk-ca mailing list, and there were no concerns.
Was it discussed on imports mailing list and documented at OSM Wiki as required by https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines (extra link to version of page at time of making that import: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Import/Guidelines&oldid=524190 ) ? Can you link to either?
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Comment from sammuell
Yes, the MLI database is basically unchanged since 2011
I'm not sure if it was discussed on the imports list. I did not initiate the work and the person who did is no longer active. Around about that time there were a bunch of overenthusiastic imports in Canada that didn't, we found out later, strictly follow procedure. Those have largely remained since they do not contaminate the data, but were just uploaded improperly
It was documented on the wiki at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Import/Catalogue&diff=531512&oldid=526628 -
Comment from ZeLonewolf
Discussion thread on talk-ca:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2022-February/010343.html -
Comment from Mateusz Konieczny
> Yes, the MLI database is basically unchanged since 2011
In such case I would be happy to help with removal of this attribution tag if it is misleading and not needed.
But is there some way to check that this database has not changed significantly?
Given that noone was bothered by "All rights reserved." for over 10 years I am a bit suspicious about "everything is fine" claim.
And if I would be removing it then I want to be quite sure that it is actually not applicable.
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Comment from sammuell
Hi Mateusz
I just pulled up the shapefile from the website, it hasn't been changed since 2005 according to the metadata
Sam
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